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Toyota Tops Vehicle Dependability Study (J.D. Power)
Fox News ^ | August 9, 2006 | Associated Press

Posted on 08/09/2006 1:53:27 PM PDT by Zakeet

DETROIT — Japan's Toyota Motor Corp. (TM) won top honors in eight categories of a closely watched vehicle dependability study, more than any other company, while mainstream brands closed in on luxury nameplates, J.D. Power and Associates said Wednesday.

Lexus, Toyota's luxury brand, was the top-ranked nameplate for the 12th consecutive year. It was followed by Ford Motor Co.'s (F) Mercury and General Motors Corp.'s (GM) Buick and Cadillac.

Last-place Land Rover, which is owned by Ford, lagged far behind the second-to-last brand, Saab, which is owned by GM. Land Rover owners reported 438 problems per 100 vehicles, while Saab owners reported 326.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: auto; automakers; ford; fordmotor; generalmotors; gm; quality; topten; toyota
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1 posted on 08/09/2006 1:53:28 PM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

Loooove my Tundra.


2 posted on 08/09/2006 1:54:06 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Zakeet

Not surprizing.

Poor Saab. I owned 2 pre-GM and loved them both.


3 posted on 08/09/2006 1:59:18 PM PDT by L98Fiero (I'm worth a million in prizes.)
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To: Zakeet

After 30+ years of driving Chevy's and Fords,my wife and I recently bought our first foreign cars (Mazda and Hyundai). Our reasons ..better quality and value. Our last US cars were trouble prone and when we looked at US made replacements we found that quality had gone down noticeably. When a US maker can barely offer a 36,000 mile warranty and Hyundai offers a 100,000 mile warranty it says a lot about what the manufacturers themselves think of their products.


4 posted on 08/09/2006 2:17:31 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir wölle bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Zakeet

Doubt any Toyota owners will be surprised. I've owned mine since 1997, it's been in the shop exactly zero times other than routine scheduled maintenance. Even counting maintenance it's been unavailable to me for a grand total of about 7 hours in the 9 years I've owned it.


5 posted on 08/09/2006 2:18:15 PM PDT by thoughtomator (The worst thing about censorship is XXXXXXXXXXXXX)
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To: Zakeet

They never drove mine...


6 posted on 08/09/2006 2:19:34 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: martin_fierro

Love My Camry, Bought it new in 1997 Just replaced the front brakes for the first time at 165K miles and to add I am a woman driver! HA!


7 posted on 08/09/2006 2:25:17 PM PDT by Beanhead40 (Putting up a good fight for Conservatives in Seattle)
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To: L98Fiero

"Poor Saab. I owned 2 pre-GM and loved them both."

They also made great SCUD missile launchers!


8 posted on 08/09/2006 3:04:38 PM PDT by Moral Hazard (The "missing links" in evolution are nothing compared to the extraneous links in intelligent design.)
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To: Zakeet
I realize it's not considered good form to say anything positive about the "Big Three" on Free Republic, but the perceived difference in quality and dependability today is much greater than the actual difference.

In the same J.D. Power VDS survey that was cited, all three Ford brands finished above industry average. Three GM brands finished above industry average and Pontiac and Chevrolet were close. Chrysler Group is still having problems, but then Mercedes-Benz also was below average.

Toyota is having its own problems with a rash of recalls. In fact, the number of Toyota vehicles recalled has doubled in the past year.

I am not sure whether Saab's problems relate to GM ownership or European manufacturing. Of all European nameplates, only Jaguar and BMW finished above average. Mercedes, Porsche, Volvo, Audi, MINI, VW and Saab all were below average and Land Rover was dead last.
9 posted on 08/09/2006 3:41:08 PM PDT by BW2221
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To: BW2221
Toyota is having its own problems with a rash of recalls.

Mine was recalled so they could check the child safety door lock. That's all. I could start to list the things that began to break and fall off the Chevy one mile after the 60,000 mile warantee ran out, but it would take a while to list all the parts in the car.

10 posted on 08/09/2006 3:46:02 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: BW2221

I have to agree that the American cars are starting to make a come back, and that quality may be better than impression.

However, I don't own any (Honda for life) and have zero intention of ever buying any. I soured on the American cars watching my dad replace multiple bad transmissions. That impression implanted is permanent.


11 posted on 08/09/2006 3:54:13 PM PDT by steveyp
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To: thoughtomator

The only major thing that went wrong with my 1994 Toyota Camry was that the ex got it in the divorce!


12 posted on 08/09/2006 4:12:15 PM PDT by hunter112 (Total victory at home and in the Middle East!)
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To: Zakeet

I really don't understand why any automaker cannot give a bumper-to-bumper 100,000 mile warantee.

36,000 mile warantee? I hit that driving off the lot.


13 posted on 08/09/2006 4:40:19 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Soros is a communist goon, controlled by communist goons.)
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To: The Great RJ

FYI - Ford offers 5 year powertrain coverage standard now. And Mazdas and Fords share innumerable parts and components. If you bought a Mazda6, for example, the Ford Fusion is VERY similar. Same platform, same engine. The Ford Mustang even runs on a modified Mazda platform. The European Ford Focus runs on the same platform as the Mazda3. The DISI Mazda tech is from Ford.

As for Hyundai, they're vastly improved. But don't forget that warranty is non-transferrable. Not even to family members anymore, from what I understand.


14 posted on 08/09/2006 8:47:26 PM PDT by eraser2005
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To: RightWhale

And my Taurus was recalled because the headlight aiming instructions in the manual weren't clear. And people tell me it must have been recalled 1000 times by now.

Which is more serious?

(actually, the child safety lock recall may not have been that serious, but you get the point, right?)


15 posted on 08/09/2006 8:50:14 PM PDT by eraser2005
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To: steveyp

I hope for your sake you don't have a 1998-2001 Honda Accord or a 2001-2004 or so Civic.

Honda completely forgot how to build reliable automatic transmissions for a few years, but the public has been remarkably forgiving.


16 posted on 08/09/2006 8:51:23 PM PDT by eraser2005
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To: BW2221

How dare you say something like that? /sarc

Toyota not only had their recalls double - in 2005, Toyota was second behind just Ford in terms of % of vehicles on the road which were recalled. And they were a VERY close second.

On the other hand, considering that all Toyota and Ford brands finished above average (with the exceptions of Volvo and Land Rover, which being recent acquisitions are still works in progress), maybe recalls aren't so bad?


17 posted on 08/09/2006 8:54:32 PM PDT by eraser2005
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To: BW2221
Actually the term "Big Three" has been redefined. It used to mean Ford, Chrysler and GM. But increasingly, it has come to mean Toyota, Honda and Nissan.

I see more of the latter cars on the roads these days than the former.

I used to be sad about this but now I have come to realize that the Japanese version of the Big Three is probably more American than what they make up there in Detroit.

The Detroit Big Three may be improving, as you point out, but the Japanese Big Three would have to stand still for a few years for Detroit to catch up. This just isn't going to happen. Especially when Detroit is still saddled by the UAW whose leadership is about as far to the left as you can get.

At least the Nissan I drive is made in a red state (Tennessee) by non-union Americans who aren't being pressured by bosses to vote the "straight Democratic ticket."

It also helps that my Nissan never goes into the shop except for routine maintenance. I've been thinking about cancelling my AAA membership because I haven't needed a tow since I owned a Ford. But I still rent cars from time to time so it might still come in handy if I ever get stuck with a Ford Taurus.

18 posted on 08/09/2006 8:59:37 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am a big fan of urban sprawl but I wish there were more sidewalks)
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To: Zakeet

I bought 4 new Toyotas in the 80s. I quit because I could no longer put up with sleezy Toyota dealers. In a sleezy business, Toyota dealers manage to somehow go a little further.

2-1/2 years into my Hyundai Sonata, I have found Hyundai dealers to be a nice improvement. They certainly learned more about how to treat customers. My Sonata is a good as any of the Toyotas I owned. And was about 5 Grand less than a comparable Toyota.


19 posted on 08/09/2006 9:02:41 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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To: eraser2005
Toyota not only had their recalls double - in 2005, Toyota was second behind just Ford in terms of % of vehicles on the road which were recalled. And they were a VERY close second.

On the other hand, considering that all Toyota and Ford brands finished above average (with the exceptions of Volvo and Land Rover, which being recent acquisitions are still works in progress), maybe recalls aren't so bad?

Depends. If a car company frequently issues recalls for minor potential problems before they become widespread in the wild, that speaks well for their commitment to quality. If a company is ordered to issue a recall, or issues one only after receiving hundreds or thousands of complaints, not so much.

Suppose that my car has five recalls in its first few years, none at all urgent. I get them all fixed (for free) when I take the car to the shop for scheduled maintenance, having not needed to take it to the shop before then. I would certainly have a favorable view of that car's reliability.

I have a '99 Chrysler Sebring Convertible that I bought in early 2003 with 30,000 miles on it. It now has about 75,000 (I love the car, and take it on a lot of rod trips). I've only it in the shop twice -- once for the 60K scheduled maintenance, and once in Wilmington, NC to have brake pads and a radiator hose replaced. The latter was pricey, which was mostly my own fault, because I should have had it checked out here in town before embarking on a 1,000 mile road trip.

20 posted on 08/09/2006 10:43:35 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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