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To: webheart

Care to make an appointment???


http://www.medra.com/index.htm
For the Phone number:
http://www.medra.com/about-medra.htm



http://www.medra.com/about-diseases.htm
From their web site:

Another successful use of Fetal Stem Cells is in the field of anti-aging (rejuvenation/longevity).
Destination: Dominican Republic

Medra Clinic

The treatment: Foetal stem-cell injections from £15,000.
Malibu psychiatrist William Rader, 67, previously owned a
string of private clinics in LA dedicated to treating
eating disorders. He recently founded Medra to offer stem-
cell treatments to wealthy clients who wanted to combine a
holiday on the exotic La Romana beach resort in the
Dominican Republic with their stem-cell therapy.

He has arranged for hundreds of patients to be injected
with cells taken from six to 12-week-old aborted foetuses
since the clinic opened its doors. Initial consultations
are done at Rader's LA surgery at Malibu beach.
Arrangements are then made for patients to fly out to the
luxury resort in the Dominican Republic to have the
treatment administered. The promise: According to Medra's
website, the foetal stem cell 'detects and then attempts
to repair any damage or deficit discovered in the body, as
well as releasing growth factors, which stimulate the
body's own repair mechanisms.

'Stem-cell therapy is the future. It's just unfortunate
that there is so much opposition to it in the West,' Rader says.

The reality: Debra Huff-Rader, director of physician and
patient relations, is deliberately vague when I ask where
the foetuses are sourced, saying only that they are from
the former Soviet republic of Georgia. But she invites me
to speak with Rader himself.

'Because Rader is acting outside America, his work falls
outside U.S. regulations on stem-cell therapy,' says Dr
Minger. 'Patients risk at best wasting a lot of money on a
treatment that is not proven in clinical trials and at
worst one that is putting their health at serious risk.'


88 posted on 08/09/2006 3:28:15 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla

Ok, I went to the website, and it looks like they actually are convincing people that they know what they are doing. In reading the scientific basis, it seems that they have anticipated the rejection argument and say that fetal stem cells cannot be rejected. I don't believe this for a second. For one thing, a fetus is usually genetically dissimilar from it's mother, and is not rejected. Why? Because it is surrounded by a placenta, not because its tissues are undifferentiated.

I do not believe the argument, and there really is only one way to disprove it, and that is by getting fetal stem cells and injecting them into a person. From the responses I see here on this thread, nobody is willing to disprove this premise. That does not make it fact.

And another thing, they make it sound like these stem cells are little nano robots that go looking for things to repair. I would like to call your attention to the disease known as Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. To try to sum it up, fetal cells, as they divide from 1 to 2 to 4 to 8 to 16 and so on, move to specific locations where they differentiate and become more specific types of tissues. With FAS, certain brain cells fail to stop at the destination location and continue migrating, causing severe congenital brain problems. Google some CAT scans of FAS brains and you will see what I mean.

Not to mention the possibility that the stem cell might actually survive and take hold somewhere, what kind of cell is it going to become? Is it just going to take on the characteristics of surrounding cells, even though they are not even as closely related as a brother or sister? Come on! More than likely, it would become a cancerous cell, just like most human cancers are caused by cells who are meant to divide but don't know when to quit. I personally wouldn't want any organ tissues like liver or pancreas or epithelium injected into my body.

Finally, one consequence of being outside of the US is that the clinics cannot be punished for using fetal tissue illegally, but I doubt if there are very many laws against it in the US anyway. I mean, most legislation about stem cell research deals with government funding more than actual permission. I think the advantage of being outside of the US for these cretins is that they cannot be prosecuted for fraud, for claiming to inject fetal tissue into people. All they would need is a soup of steroids and Human Growth Hormone to make it look like something was happening.

Anyway, check your BS meter. It may need calibration.


95 posted on 08/09/2006 4:01:31 PM PDT by webheart (Have a nice day!)
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To: DaveTesla

Thanks again!


153 posted on 08/10/2006 6:03:20 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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