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One third of French believe in miracles : poll
AFP via The Tocqueville Connection ^ | 08/08/2006

Posted on 08/09/2006 10:35:43 AM PDT by Republicain

PARIS, Aug 8, 2006 (AFP) - More than a third of French people believe in miracles, according to a poll to appear on Thursday, just days before a major annual pilgrimage to the Lourdes sanctuary in southwestern France.

Thirty-five percent of respondents to the poll, carried out by TNS-Sofres for the French Roman Catholic magazine The Pilgrim, said they believed in miracles, though they used different definitions for the word.

One third of believers defined a miracle as "a phenomenon for which there is no explanation", another third said it was "a happy and unexpected event" while only eight percent said it was the result of "divine intervention".

Sixty-eight percent of respondents said they did not believe in miracles, while three percent had no opinion, according to the poll of 1,000 people carried out on July 6-7.

Some six million pilgrims flock every year to Lourdes, a small town in the foothills of the Pyrenees, where Catholics believe the Virgin Mary appeared to a young miller's daughter inside a cave in 1858.

Christianity's most visited place of pilgrimage after Rome, Lourdes draws hundreds of thousands of sick and handicapped, fervently praying for a cure from the allegedly holy power of the site's spring water. The largest French pilgrimage to Lourdes takes place on August 15, the Roman Catholic Feast of the Assumption.

The Roman Catholic Church in November recognised as "miraculous" the case of an Italian woman who recovered from a serious illness following a pilgrimage to Lourdes in 1952, the 67th "miracle cure" attributed to the shrine.

Out of more than 6,700 exceptional cures reported to be linked to Lourdes since 1858, only one percent have been officially recognised as "miracles".


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: catholic; catholicism; christianism; europe; france; frenchywannamiracle; lourdes; miracle; pilgrim; pilgrimage
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1 posted on 08/09/2006 10:35:47 AM PDT by Republicain
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To: Republicain

The other 2/3 prostrate to Allah 5 times a day.


2 posted on 08/09/2006 10:37:40 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (Liberals are the Mongol herds destroying America from within.)
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To: Republicain

They're going to need a miracle in order to survive the onslaught of Islamofacism.


3 posted on 08/09/2006 10:39:08 AM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: Republicain

I feel sorry for the other 2/3.


4 posted on 08/09/2006 10:41:07 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Republicain
a third of French people believe in miracles

Like the French Military fighting to defend France?

5 posted on 08/09/2006 10:41:34 AM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Republicain

Given the quality of their army, it is a wonder that more French do not believe in miracles. They certainly rely upon them.


6 posted on 08/09/2006 10:43:48 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: Republicain

They voted socialist didn't they?


7 posted on 08/09/2006 10:44:19 AM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: ConservaTexan
Like the French Military fighting to defend France?

If you think the US military could have defeated the Nazis in 1940, you're delusional. In 1940, the US had an army smaller and less well equipped than Rumania. The French fought from 1914 to 1918 (where they suffered over 6 million casualties, 75% of the men they deployed), they fought in 1870, they fought in 1815 and 1812 and 1798, etc. So give me a break.

8 posted on 08/09/2006 10:46:34 AM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Republicain
One third of French believe in miracles : poll

With an overload of Socialists, Communists and Jihadis,
the news is that the number is that low.
9 posted on 08/09/2006 10:48:30 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Alter Kaker

Nice name!


10 posted on 08/09/2006 10:49:44 AM PDT by Schweinhund
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To: Alter Kaker
If you think the US military could have defeated the Nazis in 1940, you're delusional. In 1940, the US had an army smaller and less well equipped than Rumania. The French fought from 1914 to 1918 (where they suffered over 6 million casualties, 75% of the men they deployed), they fought in 1870, they fought in 1815 and 1812 and 1798, etc. So give me a break.

Did I hit a nerve, Francois? My post said nothing about the US military in 1940, or any other era. I was merely referring to the French military and police collaborating with the Nazis. If you dispute that occurred you are delusional.

11 posted on 08/09/2006 10:56:03 AM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Schweinhund

Likewise!


12 posted on 08/09/2006 11:08:45 AM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: ConservaTexan
I was merely referring to the French military and police collaborating with the Nazis.

No you didn't. You refered to a French "failure" to defend France. They fought and they were defeated (as every other country's army would have been at that point in 1940).

We can second guess French tactics and strategy. But if you're going to accuse the French of failing to defend their country, then I think it's only fair that you consider the First World War, when they suffered six million casualties defending their country. For point of comparison, the United States, a much larger country, hasn't suffered anywhere near six million casualites in all the wars it has ever fought, combined.

13 posted on 08/09/2006 11:14:03 AM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Republicain

Wish that many believed in bathing.


14 posted on 08/09/2006 11:25:38 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Republicain

Of that 1/3, how many believe in God?


15 posted on 08/09/2006 11:38:29 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody want a peanut.....)
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To: Alter Kaker
if you're going to accuse the French of failing to defend their country

That is exactly what I am accusing the French of. Germany invaded France on May 10th, and Hitler was admiring his newly acquired Eiffel Tower on June 23rd! How hard could they have fought? It seems more likely that they surrendered! And don't try and impress me with large casualty numbers, all that does is prove that they didn't fight very well, whatever the reasons may be!

The French inability(unwillingness) to fight led General Patton(maybe you've heard of him) to say "I'd rather have a German unit in front of me than a French unit behind me"

When it comes to military endeavors, I will take Patton's opinion over de Gaulle's, or yours, everytime. On a related note, I would take the high school kids from "Red Dawn" over the French military, if push came to shove.

16 posted on 08/09/2006 11:45:24 AM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Republicain
while only eight percent said it was the result of "divine intervention".

Sad.

This is largely the result of poor education.

Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano
Blood of St. Januarius
The Tilma of Guadalupe
Incorrupt bodies of the saints
Fatima
Shroud of Turin
Sudarium of Oviedo

17 posted on 08/09/2006 11:48:14 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: ConservaTexan
How hard could they have fought? It seems more likely that they surrendered!

They fought and they were defeated. As the United States and every other country would have been in 1940 had they shared a common border with Germany.

And don't try and impress me with large casualty numbers, all that does is prove that they didn't fight very well, whatever the reasons may be!

Now you're just being silly.

18 posted on 08/09/2006 11:52:46 AM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker
They fought and they were defeated. As the United States and every other country would have been in 1940 had they shared a common border with Germany.

IMHO, you are the one being silly. The Japanese fought and were defeated. The Germans fought and were defeated. The French capitulated. And today the French, again unwilling to fight, do all they can to surrender diplomatically so they do not have to run the white flag up the pole on a battle field.

19 posted on 08/09/2006 12:01:10 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Republicain

I believe in miracles. I'm surprised France still exists....


20 posted on 08/09/2006 12:04:40 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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