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Lazy People Don't Get Rich
Yahoo! Finance ^ | August 8, 2006 | Robert Kiyosaki

Posted on 08/08/2006 7:11:51 AM PDT by stainlessbanner

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To: Hildy; All
I guess it's your definition of rich.

well, I sorta agree. I may not want to be rich,but I DO want to be comfortable and to own my own life,instead of my employer pretty much owning those 8 hrs a day.

I'd like to be rich enough to cover those catastrophics that many people are subjected to through their lives, without having to depend on "Govt largesse".

i earn a good income, comparatively speaking, but we get hit with an involved cancer or the house gets flattened by a tornado, we're still sunk.

I also tend to disagree with many on this thread who are trashing the author. Idon't know or care about the author, but in what way is "lazy people dont get rich" a problem statement?

Oh well ... didn't come here to pick afight ;)

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81 posted on 08/08/2006 8:39:43 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Middle East Interactive Map: http://interneticsonline.com.dish5009.net.ibizdns.com/MEMap.html)
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To: 50sDad
Another great agent of progress is wanting rich people's stuff/life and not being able to afford it. At one time rich people had servants that freed them from drudgery. Middle and poor couldn't afford servants, but they could afford the new machines of cloths washers, vacuums, wood/coal less stoves, central heating. Another example is cars which used to be custom made by coach builders. Henry Ford found a way. Air travel, machine made cloths, public universities, all emulating the rich and making progress go.
82 posted on 08/08/2006 8:39:56 AM PDT by Leisler (Islam is the ROP. I know because the President told me so.)
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To: TonyRo76
Oh, I'm not saying that grace isn't involved. But I think my whole statement could be summed up with "Does God save those who wish _not_ to be?"

The only real instance that I can think of of God saving someone who didn't want to be would be Paul, and that's VERY arguable as he was a "Pharisee's Pharisee", the kinda guy that wanted to do God's will anyway... he just thought that it happened to be persecuting the new Christian sect.
83 posted on 08/08/2006 8:41:28 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.)
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To: wizr
So, I'm a Bible thumper because I don't believe in the monetary standard.

Funny, I recall a parable in the Bible about 3 people being given some money. One hid it under a rock, another invested wisely. The "good guy" in the Bible was the one who multiplied his money.

Have you ever just given a car away to someone who needs it?

As a matter of fact, yes. And he did quite well with it. A friend from Switzerland needed to get to Guatemala, so I gave him a car.

Have you ever given something you cherish away to someone that has admired it?

As a matter of fact, yes, a gun to one fellow, and genealogy info to many.

To me, life is giving, not taking, and no amount of tithing can make up for some "business" deals. Sharing is caring and no amount of money can make up for the lives ruined by scare real estate tactics and "creative" financing.

You as many self righteous Bible thumpers who see what everyone else does as somehow "wrong" will never get it just as most democrats wil never "get it".

My friend and his wife who tithe their 10% give more of their time to their church than most ever will. They can afford to as they make good money and don't have to worry about every cent or minute.

You would probably not like them either as they are Mormons and truely live their faith.

84 posted on 08/08/2006 8:49:04 AM PDT by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: Just mythoughts

The lazy dont get rich ...

except for those who inherit thier wealth, or those who have some windfall fortune, such as an insurace payout, lottery winning or gambling luck. I think you can include dot net stock option babies in there. The percentage that get rich through thier own hard efforts is actually a very small percentage, and they have a name ... entrepenuers.

The hard working get rich ...

This is also false. I have known a lot of very hard working people in my life. Very few of them are rich. The richest friends I have generally fall in the "lucky" category, where they work for a tech company and get premium wages and benefits. They are not any smarter or harder working than other friends I have that do the same thing, they just work for a different company.

Entrepenuers as a rule are not wealthy either. They toil and struggle for years trying to get thier companies off the ground. Thier spouses have to work "real" jobs to support the families thru the hard times. Even with all that, more than 50% fail after less than 5 years. What makes entrepenuers wealthy, is usually a key employee.

When an entrepenuer decides to hire someone who complements them ... if the ent is creative then the key empl is organizational, if the ent is production, the key emp is a sales person ... and if the ent can actually give up some of the authority in the running of the company, then the growth of the company can go from lineal to exponential. It is usually this 2 person combo that makes both of these two fabulously wealthy, and drags a lot of other lucky people along. It was not Bill Gates alone that made Microsoft ... it was Bill Gates and Paul Allen.

Yes, hard work is a requirement - to create new - real - sustainable - wealth, but it is not a guarantor.

Being in the right place at the right time, with the right offer ... creates wealth. Would we even be talking about Bill Gates today if he had blown off the meeting with IBM? Would we be talking about Gary Kildall or Bill Gates if Gary Kildall had NOT blown off the meeting with IBM. Would we know who Steve Jobs or Steve Wozniak are if they had not visited PARC and gotten the rights to use some of thier "useless inventions". This is the really hard part about success. Yeah, you can work hard. You can even work smart. But unless you spend time looking for opportunities, neither working hard OR working smart are going to make you rich.

Opportunists get wealthy. That is why liberals hate the successful. No matter how hard you try, you cannot just create that spark when innovation, inspiration and need meet. Conservatives do it in the real world, and they do it daily ... and that is how a lot of new companies get formed. They find needs, and fill them. Yes, they might innovate a new way to save time, or effort, or money from an old product or method, and there is nothing wrong with that.

The liberals can only offer a pale substitute, and that is when they artifically create the need by spending tax dollars ... and yes, people get rich off of tax dollars, or occasionally from politically inspired grants (see George Soros) but that is how liberals choose to create wealth. They make programs that nobody really wants, but they are still made. Liberals make money off of filling political inspirations ... and that is why Gore so badly wants Global Warming to become accepted ... it would create a boondoggle of wealth for the liberal causes and fund the furtherance of the socialist state for generations.

Yes, for the most part the author is full of crap, but there is a scintillia of truth to what he says ... do not listen to his theology, nor take his point as the end game ... it is simply one facet of a larger truth.



85 posted on 08/08/2006 8:52:47 AM PDT by RainMan (What part of Jihad dont you understand?)
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To: RainMan

Another moonbat who does not understand wealth creation at all and thinks rich people just got lucky. All efforts to justify your own situation by not admitting the reality of how most people get rich. If you posted your diatribe on DU they would fund you to start your own blog.


86 posted on 08/08/2006 8:55:44 AM PDT by Maneesh (A non-hyphenated American.)
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To: TonyRo76
"In each of the Biblical instances you cited, God had mercy upon the individual and by His grace (free gift) healed them"

Also, I would like to point out that a gift is worthless if refused, left with the giver, and/or never used... seen in that light that quote "God helps those that help themselves." is perfectly valid, as are all my examples cited...

In fact, the blood-issue woman could have been likened to someone tackling the giver for the gift.
87 posted on 08/08/2006 8:55:56 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.)
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To: stainlessbanner

Jesus said, "A man's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions."

I consider him a greater thinker than this guy.


88 posted on 08/08/2006 9:15:51 AM PDT by SerpentDove (No weapon forged against Israel will prevail. - Isaiah 54:17)
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To: RainMan
I know a man who loves to talk about how much money he has.
He was a republican until recently he got the 'hate' Bush virus, not over the war, but high gas prices, the illegal invasion, and the final straw was the new medicare rules.

Apparently those rules require a complete nickle and dime accounting of ones wealth for government help, and for some these new rules cut into their wealth factor.

I have found that under the conservative mantle that far too many obsess over getting themselves 'rich' as a measure of their conservatism. Actually it is a very elitist liberal mind that obsesses over wealth because the majority of their time is fixated upon making more or protecting what they have. This is usually when the wealthy turn to government to get government to do their wealth protecting.

Such as health care and nursing care for elderly relatives or cheap labor.
89 posted on 08/08/2006 9:51:29 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: stainlessbanner
A millionaire boss, back in the 1970's, once told me, and a whole group of coworkers"People can't really be millionaires unless they are doing some things illegal." Maybe that's not always true, but it was something he said.

He had inherited his companies and wealth from his father. It had NOTHING to do with not being lazy.

90 posted on 08/08/2006 10:00:39 AM PDT by timestax
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To: stainlessbanner
Allow me to be politically incorrect: The No. 1 reason people aren't rich is because they're lazy.

Neither do the mentally infirm, so what is your point. Ever see a not so lazy illegal doing backbreaking work 16 hours a day, that got rich?

91 posted on 08/08/2006 10:22:38 AM PDT by itsahoot (The home of the Free, Because of the Brave (Shamelessly stolen from a Marine)
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To: ansel12
A common question of the non rich about the rich is, why do they keep working after they are rich?

Henry Ford was asked once; How much money is ebough? His answer, just a little bit more.

E.C. Mulendore a very big rancher and banker in Olahoma, once said about the size of his ranch. All I want is whats mine and what joins mine.

92 posted on 08/08/2006 10:27:35 AM PDT by itsahoot (The home of the Free, Because of the Brave (Shamelessly stolen from a Marine)
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To: stainlessbanner
Wealth is about recognizing opportunities and managing risk.


BUMP

93 posted on 08/08/2006 10:35:25 AM PDT by capitalist229 (Get Democrats out of our pockets and Republicans out of our bedrooms.)
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To: RainMan

"The richest friends I have generally fall in the "lucky" category, ..."

Need some new friends...


94 posted on 08/08/2006 10:35:32 AM PDT by dakine
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To: OneWingedShark
the faith-filled centurion,

The faithful Centurion did not get healed, his lazy servant that stayed home, did however.

95 posted on 08/08/2006 10:35:43 AM PDT by itsahoot (The home of the Free, Because of the Brave (Shamelessly stolen from a Marine)
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To: itsahoot

No, but the healing was on his behalf... and there's no evidence that the servant was lazy, in fact he was much-loved by the centurion, which suggests that a) he was either a great worker and help to the centurion, or b) he was a dear friend of that centurion, a confidant, if you will.

Another one that you would call lazy, I suppose, would be the story of the man whose daughter died. (She is only sleeping.)

[sarc] Obviously, it was her father who was doing all the work and she was the lazy one. [/sarc]


96 posted on 08/08/2006 10:46:01 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.)
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To: stainlessbanner

I think this is the "rich dad, poor dad" dude.

Pretty good book for the first 1/4. Then he start repeating. This is sort of a repeat what he always says.


97 posted on 08/08/2006 10:48:51 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Creation "science" has a final answer--adherence to the scriptures. All other data are discarded.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Lazy was a sarcasm only meaning that he did not go chase Jesus down as the others did. He did however have a friend that was more than willing to help him out. A trait not often seen among the rich.

Then we have Lazurus laying down for a dirt nap.(Hint more sarcasm)

God reveals we all have a gift, just not the same gift. Jesus also said we would always have the poor among us, he did not provide a reason.

Anyone that thinks we are all born equal in ability, have never looked at IQ charts, the bell curve is real, whatever the reason.

Do you really think Einstien just worked really hard to have a genuis IQ? He himself said the his Theory of Relativity came to him in a flash.

98 posted on 08/08/2006 11:02:21 AM PDT by itsahoot (The home of the Free, Because of the Brave (Shamelessly stolen from a Marine))
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To: itsahoot
Who said anything about everyone being born the same? That's obviously untrue. However, the bible does talk about God knitting together bone and sinew in the womb, which implies that everyone is personally made by God and unique and special as persons because of that.

I have a decent IQ, but I'm horrible at social functions. Good? Bad? Depends on how you view it. Sometimes it's great to be all introverted and not really needing much in the way of social interaction. Other times it's kinda irksome when you want to make friends and aren't all that outgoing.

I could contrast that with my best friend who is extroverted in the extreme, it seems to me almost like he could walk into a crowded room and walk out with at least three new friends. (A bit of an exaggeration, I know.) On his other hand, he was telling me that he could probably benefit from some quiet, reflective time.

99 posted on 08/08/2006 11:45:34 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.)
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To: stainlessbanner
This guy is a really brilliant SCAMMER.

He succeeds breathtakingly at tapping into legitimate disgust with laziness, secularism, and contempt for the military, and quick as a flash he's got his red, white and blue palm in your back-pocket, fishing around for your wallet.

Multi-level marketing? A really smart SNAKE...!

100 posted on 08/08/2006 1:02:12 PM PDT by gaijin
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