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To: Guenevere
If I were you, I would not be so fast to call the pro-life folks liars.

Fast, slow.. whatever. Walls covered in blood are best left to horror movies
and not frequently found in any medical environment.

It rather turns off the customers.

I'm pro life myself.. and anti lies.

This sounds like BS to me.

If you have a problem with that, too bad.

15 posted on 08/07/2006 5:59:19 PM PDT by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: humblegunner
I'm just saying how do you know it's not true?

Lots of bad things happen in these places...

..our local abortuary -(in a small town)-was the scene of some horrific things....the abortionist gets in a hurry....things happen....bleeders happen.

16 posted on 08/07/2006 6:01:54 PM PDT by Guenevere (Israel, our friend and ally.....God bless her.)
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To: humblegunner
Ya gotta pay a little more attention to the article.

Why dont you get some of that CSI stuff and use it around where you butchered your deer. You would be suprised. It takes very few molecules to activate the reagent. So few in fact that the blood is not visible. This is how murder scenes are determined.

Hyperbole on the Pro lifers, a little, but I do not doubt the test results.

19 posted on 08/07/2006 6:07:31 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather be carrying a shotgun with Dick, than riding shotgun with a Kennedyl! *-0(:~{>)
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To: humblegunner
I agree with you. I'm so against the concept and practice of abortion but this sounds like BS.

And some pro-life groups, like pro-abortion groups, use propaganda and outright lies to promote their cause because they feel so strongly about it. They want to stop abortions as much as Planned Parenthood et al wants to keep them going - and both will do WHAT IT TAKES to win.

And not all pro-lifers are "religious zealots". I am not religious at all but it seems so patently obvious that vacuuming out fetuses/babies is simply wrong - one doesn't need a belief in Jesus to see that.

22 posted on 08/07/2006 6:11:41 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: humblegunner; Guenevere; garv; raybbr; rawcatslyentist; Lizavetta; Grut; Spiff; muawiyah; ...
Few things:

Remember, blood stays on walls even if you can't see it. So you can wipe it off but it is still there and can still be made visible with a solution.

1) Aborts being done for 23 years in a place with minimal requirements by someone who specializes in super late term abortions. I have gotten blood spurting out of me from just shaving with a new blade. Is it REALLY ALL that unlikely that over 23 YEARS no blood accumulated in the principal killing rooms that maybe didn't get cleaned up as well as it should?

2) Yes, Tiller is an expert at infanticide at the latest stages where there is the most blood and most likely time to be a messy spurting from the veins of either of the victims. To quote his clinic, 'We have an unparalleled record of safey in late abortion services and we have more experience in late abortion services over 24 weeks than anyone else currently practicing in the Western Hemisphere, Europe and Australia.' Again - 23 YEARS of this stuff in the same building.

3) Referencing three past examples of prenatal murders and no big mess does not mean it doesn't happen at a facility operating and doing LATE term stuff for *cough* 23 years.

During a natural birth you can get a big mess. During aborts since you have sharp objects in those tight areas, it is not rare that a uterous gets pierced or some other part of a woman gets damaged.

4) One of the rooms said to be blood soaked was the room that abortionists cleaned off their implements. Are you really going to call BS on trace amounts of blood (remember - even if you wipe down the wall you, you can't see that it's still there unless you use something much stronger solution) in that room?

75 posted on 08/07/2006 8:19:56 PM PDT by mbraynard (I don't even HAVE a mustache!)
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To: humblegunner

According to the first sentence of the article, it was a special kind of blood covering the walls - UNSEEN blood.


92 posted on 08/08/2006 7:13:01 AM PDT by linda_22003
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