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To: nw_arizona_granny
I knew that once Grabovoi started mixing in politics he'd end up like Khodorkovsky. Here's an old article on Grabovoi, with some specifics on his 'meetings':


http://2005.novayagazeta.ru/nomer/2005/70n/n70n-s01.shtml

Modern-day Rasputin preys on terrorist victims in Russia

(ORIGINAL TITLE: THE MACROBOSS OF OBSCURITY)


Nord-Ost victims also went to Grabovoi

People who lost their loved ones at 'Nord-Ost' have also walked the same route that the Beslan mothers are traveling today. Hope that the government will conduct an honest investigation. Then the deepest of disappointments, the caddishness of the district attorney, being kicked like a football from one court to another, and then, finally, complete disbelief that it is even possible to obtain the truth. Then there is Grabovoi: a salesman of unrealizable illusions to both wholesale and retail buyers. Wholesale - for a thousand rubles, retail - for 40 thousand.


A commercial enterprise

Moscow resident Nina Dmitriyevna Denisova's grandson Andrei and son-in-law Sergei died at Dubrovka. Nina Dmitriyevna has a PhD and is an active, well-read woman who is interested in many things.

All are defenseless, however, when faced with a terrible misfortune: the educated, and those who are not very well educated, and sometimes it seems as if you would do anything to see your loved ones just one more time.

"I read Grabovoi's pamphlets," says Nina Dmitriyevna. "I reflected on them, and finally decided to go to his lecture at the 'Mir' Cinema by the Old Circus on Tsvetnoi. It would be an understatement to say there were a lot of people, though I didn't see any ads there. There was a line by the box office, tickets were 1000 rubles (about $40), but they ran out pretty fast, and brought out some torn up paper. I left, and outside they were selling tickets for 500 rubles. I was ashamed that I'd come on Holy business, with the hope to resurrect Andryusha (Andrei) and Seryozha (Sergei), and here they were proposing some cheat.

"The hall was overflowing, and people sat everywhere - in the gaps, on the steps, and I climbed up top somewhere. I have a degree in Physical Chemistry. I had prepared for Grabovoi's lecture, I'd already read and reflected on it, but I didn't understand a thing I heard there. I tried to dig deeper, but couldn't. I began to understand that he was just repeating himself, as if he was trying to tangle it up, he makes U-turns and then the real matter is completely different. He doesn't have any desire to be understood. He constantly interrupts his own thesis. It disappears, while inside you're ready to raise your hand because you don't understand anything. Then I watched a videotape of his lecture on revival, and I got the same impression: the man doesn't strive to report something to a person, to elucidate. The man only requires faith. My impression is that he is a natural charlatan. He's just messing with your mind.

"I tried to reproduce some of what is written in his books, to add to my knowledge through meditation. I know how to get away from the everyday problems. I'm not off the street, I'm trained, but here I came to the conclusion that the method he proposes for concentrating your attention is charlatanism. Contacts with Grabovoi, unfortunately, are negative. I understood that this was a useless matter. In the hall sat people who were either very ill, or had lost loved ones as I had. He gathers them up, takes an enormous sum of money, and then speculates on their misfortunes. 1000 rubles for his cassette on revival. Yes, and everyone there was ready to give him this thousand in order to learn how to resurrect their loved ones. You know that it's bunk, but you buy it anyway..."

Nina Dmitriyevna nevertheless wrote Grabovoi two notes. One was about Andryusha and Seryozha. She explained that they perished at 'Nord-Ost', and requested a meeting. The second note was on behalf of all who lost loved ones at Dubrovka, and also requested a meeting or some kind of contact.

"His people left with bags, and these were bags full of the same kinds of requests, I climbed down and understood that we needn't wait for anything, that it was also fraud. You know your retinue can't process such an amount, why are you tricking people? And where are our authorities when it's necessary to put an end to this swindle? Why aren't the authorities looking into this?"

Why did you go there anyway?

"Faith. What if something really comes out of it? I'm meticulous and that's why I went. Right away I was having dreams about Andryusha, constantly he'd appear, and I saw him again recently. I called to him: Andryusha! Andryusha!' and burst into tears, but he said: 'stop crying, you're bothering us, we're working here'. I tried to get a hold of myself, but again I burst into tears and he got up and left. We tear them to pieces with our tears. We must give them rest. There is no such thing as resurrection."


Spiritual measure

Viktoriya Zaslavskaya is the mother of Arseny Kurilenko, the young artist who was killed at the musical 'Nord-Ost'. She is certain that it is another matter entirely.

"My relationship with Grigory Petrovich (Grabovoi), this is a delicate question. Everyone gets out of his or her situation independently, and I did it this way. I believe him more than I don't."

Do you think that reviving your son is possible?

"Yes. This is based of course on the love you have for the one whom you lost, but also on simple biblical truths. I'm constantly occupying myself with this and I don't cease this practice, not for one minute. There is a mass of scientific things, which confirm the possibility of revival."

Do you do know any who have been resurrected, or those who have talked with them?

"I will not give any examples. I haven't seen these people. On his website are video recordings of those who were resurrected, but I couldn't open them. The greater the number of people who believe in something, the more rapidly it will be achieved. But one must begin with the process of changing oneself. Everything that Grigory Petrovich is occupying himself with is based on the fact that the collective subconscious begins to control more when a critical number of people are occupying themselves with one single matter that they believe is possible."

So, in order for you to resurrect your son, it is necessary that many people believe in the same, and that they all move in the same direction?

"It is necessary that people, many people, return to spiritual sources. We need to think about why we die, how we live, and that it's time to be revived. What personally affects me is that supporters are needed in principle. I work internally, all by myself, and rarely do I go to Grigory Petrovich's lectures, but Grabovoi's idea does not disgust me, I'm all for it. The main thing is that, which Grabovoi is doing, is not harming anyone."

But whom does he help?

"I think that he helps. I personally see light in his works, a light, to which he calls and conducts us.

Is his purpose intelligible to you? Is it noble?

"My idea is that yes, it is. He carries life. He is for different relationships among people, for unselfishness, for spirituality."

But he makes an enormous amount of money, and aren't those who are paying him people who have no place left to go?

"Those sums that are in everyday use, they aren't here. Thousands of rubles, nowadays it's not cheap to go to a movie. When they told me it costs about 39 thousand (about $1500) for a resurrection, it also disturbed me. But no one is forcing me. If I can't pay, I can do it myself with the books. Not long ago I talked with one of his students. She assured me that he has no material interests. He just has to pay the rent."

In your view, does Grabovoi have many supporters?

"Many, it seems. The 'DRUGG' party has begun to operate in all the regions. There are many who are occupied in a similar practice. Grabovoi isn't alone. But right now it turns out that only he 'has gone to the mountain'."

In your opinion, why didn't Grabovoi prevent 'Nord-Ost' or Beslan? Why hasn't he at least returned any of the 'Nord-Ost' or Beslan children?

"I ask myself this question, but why should he have to do our spiritual work? This is something we must do ourselves, including making sure it never happens again. Of course I can't answer your question... To save the world, it doesn't mean waving your hand and preventing all misfortunes. Perhaps, through wild grief and sufferings, it is possible and to knock on the door of our subconscious until we are let in. Maybe I haven't knocked long enough. Unfortunately, that's how it is. I had it very rough, but now it's gotten better, and I have faith."

___

It remains to add that supporters of Grabovoi are certain that in September, any minute now, those who have been resurrected will return to our earth, and it will be better for them. Who will dare throw stones at them?

It is worse with Grigory Petrovich. When they somehow managed to ask him a direct question, why, for example, he did not save people at 'Nord-Ost', since he possesses such unique abilities. The answer was the following: this was too small a matter, a trifle in comparison with what he has already prevented, but this never gets disseminated…

Fog, without question, is the most convenient method of talking to people who are heavy mourning. So here it is time to think of why, as Viktoriya Zaslavskaya said, it was he who 'has gone to the mountain'? But there is also Nina Dmitriyevna Denisova's question: why are the authorities not paying serious attention to Grabovoi's activities? Why are they unconcerned?

Grabovoi is a crutch of authorities that are not able to effectively resist acts of terror, authorities that stagger about and hide the truth out of primitive self-preservation. Grabovoi, meanwhile, also finds such authorities advantageous. Authorities who are constantly reproducing the horrors that nourish the rich, black soil of his market in illusions. It means that they give birth to new supporters and worshippers. He is commercially interested in tragedies, and the authorities supply the market.

That is, two faces of one Janus.


Anna POLITKOVSKAYA,
Reviewer for 'Novaya Gazeta'
22.09.2005
4,072 posted on 09/19/2006 9:03:10 AM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: struwwelpeter

>>>It remains to add that supporters of Grabovoi are certain that in September, any minute now, those who have been resurrected will return to our earth...

To prey on the heartache of others like this is beyond despicable.


4,076 posted on 09/19/2006 9:49:33 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: struwwelpeter

This man is the ultimate evil.

It is not surprising that the mothers would be led to him, why not, as I doubt that they can take the shock of what has happened to the people in that school.


4,083 posted on 09/19/2006 11:25:47 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (A good week for getting on your knees and doing a lot of heavy praying, to God!!!)
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