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Universe Might be Bigger and Older than Expected
Space.com on Yahoo ^ | 8/7/06 | Ker Than

Posted on 08/07/2006 1:55:19 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 08/07/2006 1:55:21 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

I'm not complaining, but this is not the first posting of this story. You can find a long discussion of it here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1677257/posts

A search for "universe" turns it up.


2 posted on 08/07/2006 2:02:24 PM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: NormsRevenge
The Hubble Constant isn't.

/joke 

3 posted on 08/07/2006 2:02:49 PM PDT by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place. (http://www.zprc.org/))
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To: MineralMan

Thanks for the link.


4 posted on 08/07/2006 2:04:16 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NormsRevenge

How can infinity get bigger?


5 posted on 08/07/2006 2:06:46 PM PDT by threeleftsmakearight
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To: NormsRevenge

Maybe this thread can stay on the trail. The other one sure wandered off into the deep bog very quickly.


6 posted on 08/07/2006 2:08:41 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: NormsRevenge
>Alceste Bonanos at the Carnegie Institution of Washington

Ummm. Bare shoulders and
Ph.D. astronomy . . .
I'm guessing this gal

is the gal to take
to the next science fiction
convention that's up . . .

7 posted on 08/07/2006 2:09:13 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: NormsRevenge

"It's a great big universe, and we're all really puny / We're just tiny little specs about the size of Mickey Rooney"


8 posted on 08/07/2006 2:09:22 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: NormsRevenge

So bascially scientists are coming up with new terms to say "It's a big a$$ed universe out there"


9 posted on 08/07/2006 2:10:05 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Islam is a subsingularity memetic perversion : (http://www.orionsarm.com/topics/perversities.html))
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To: NormsRevenge
Universe Might be Bigger and Older than Expected

A better headline might be:

People Who Think They Can Determine the Size and Age of the Universe Fooling Selves, Few Others

10 posted on 08/07/2006 2:10:11 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some Freepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: NormsRevenge
The new finding implies that the universe is instead about 15.8 billion years old and about 180 billion light-years wide.

If a finite dimension is placed on the universe, doesn't that imply a boundary and by implication something beyond that boundary? Or, presuming the universe curves back on itself, are they just saying if you head off in any direction, you'll get back to where you started after traveling 180 billion L.Y.'s?

11 posted on 08/07/2006 2:10:44 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: RightWhale
>Maybe this thread can stay on the trail. The other one sure wandered off into the deep bog very quickly
>>Ummm. Bare shoulders and Ph.D. astronomy . . .


12 posted on 08/07/2006 2:11:21 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: NormsRevenge

it only makes sense that infinite expansion leads to infinite contraction back to another "big bang" and it starts up all over again.


13 posted on 08/07/2006 2:11:50 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: MineralMan

This weeks theory. I'll check in next week to see what's new.


14 posted on 08/07/2006 2:13:57 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Well, this news screws up a lot of my plans.


15 posted on 08/07/2006 2:14:32 PM PDT by Jack Wilson
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"it only makes sense that infinite expansion leads to infinite contraction back to another "big bang" and it starts up all over again."

And that's sort of the Hindu cosmology concept. The universe is created again and again. Who knows? Maybe the Hindus are right?

Is your deity the right deity? That's always the question, eh. If the Hindus are right, it's going to be a crowded world of insects and worms. They's gonna be some reincarnation surprises, doncha know.


16 posted on 08/07/2006 2:14:58 PM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: CaptainK

"This weeks theory. I'll check in next week to see what's new."

Well, this isn't really a new theory. It's new information to inform the current theory. There is a difference, you know.


17 posted on 08/07/2006 2:16:11 PM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: NormsRevenge
(a figure that has seemed firm since 2003, based on measurements of radiation leftover from the Big Bang)

Should read - (a figure that has seemed firm since 2003, based on measurements of radiation leftover from the Big Bang - which we are pretty sure happened, and if it did, likely involved radiation, which we are reasonable sure must have had a certain starting level, and we believe must currently (and for the past several billion years) decay at a certain fixed rate.)

18 posted on 08/07/2006 2:17:59 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some Freepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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Can someone explain this problem?

1. The speed of light is suppose to be a constant at 299,792,458 m/s.

2. The size of the universe is suppose to be billions of light years across.

3. The universe is suppose to have expanded to close to its present size during the 'Big Bang' in a fraction of a second.

It doesn't add up.


19 posted on 08/07/2006 2:18:05 PM PDT by Stark_GOP
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To: theFIRMbss

Hmm. The trail appears fresh and still somewhat undisturbed.


20 posted on 08/07/2006 2:19:20 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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