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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; TXnMA
[ Nothing that exists is sui generis, self-caused. Not even man. But we "forget this at every sound." / Thanks for the ping to this great article. The Language of God sounds like a great book -- I'll be putting it on my little list.... ]

As an old programmer, very old.. There were very few computer programmers when I became one (in the hundreds).. A computer language must be written by someone.. Having written (and developed) a few of them myself.. It don't happen by accident.. Takes thought and experimentation to do it..

DNA(rna) is a computer language except not for a computer, exactly.. To think it developed itself is silly in the extreme.. It takes planning toward a plan.. God does not make bluebirds, bluebirds do.. according to plan..

Mans DNA runs the computer(body), mans software is his spirit.. for whatever its worth both are needed the computer and the software.. DNA is the electronics, the spirit allows the computer to function.. Amazing that this concept escapes the so-called super sophisticated computer people.. There is a metaphorical imprint.. Computers are a good metaphor.. up to a point.. Computers are so primitive... and cannot be "born again".. Born again "beyond" DNA.. which is obviously a language lacking much.. To be remedied soon hopefully..

Maranatha Jesus...

38 posted on 08/07/2006 1:16:32 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe; Alamo-Girl; TXnMA; SirLinksalot; DaveLoneRanger; xzins
God does not make bluebirds, bluebirds do ... according to [God's] plan....

Mans DNA runs the computer(body), mans software is his spirit.. for whatever its worth both are needed the computer and the software... Amazing that this concept escapes the so-called super sophisticated computer people....

HI hosepipe! Call it willful blindness at work. And for why??? Don't bother to ask. For as a wise man once said, "certain motives are beyond the reach of argument."

IMHO, your essay/post is right on the money....

42 posted on 08/07/2006 1:34:27 PM PDT by betty boop (The universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose. -J.B.S. Haldane)
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To: hosepipe
God does not make bluebirds, bluebirds do.. according to plan..

So you say. But that's not what the Bible says, not in the case of Man anyway. Even though we know that the body of a human develops in the womb according to a (more or less) deterministic DNA "program," the Bible asserts that God is personally, directly and intimately involved in this process. E.g. (among several similar passages):

For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place. When I was woven together in the depths of the earth, your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be (Psalm 139:13-16).

So here the Bible is attributing God's direct action and intimate involvement in what we know to be a "purely natural" and "programmed" process. If that's so then can't this same non-contradictory coincidence -- of God's action as Creator and "purely natural" causation -- apply in the origin of species as in the origin of individuals?

54 posted on 08/07/2006 2:16:07 PM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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