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Military court told soldiers took turns to rape
The Scotsman ^ | Mon 7 Aug 2006 | Reuters

Posted on 08/07/2006 6:08:31 AM PDT by twinself

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - A U.S. military court heard graphic testimony on Monday on how U.S. soldiers took turns to hold down and rape a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and murdered her and her family.

At the hearing into whether four U.S. soldiers should be court-martialled, a special agent described what took place in Mahmudiya based on an interview he conducted with Specialist James Barker, one of the accused.

The case, the fifth involving serious crimes being investigated by the U.S. military in Iraq, has outraged Iraqis and led Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki to call for a review of foreign troops' immunity from prosecution under Iraqi law.

Special Agent Benjamin Bierce recalled how Barker described to him how he went into the living room of a house and held the hands of the teenage girl while Sergeant Paul Cortez either raped her or attempted to rape her.

Barker then switched positions with Cortez and attempted to rape the girl but said he was not sure if he had done so, Bierce told the hearing.

He also said he was also told shots were heard from the bedroom and shortly afterwards Private Steven Green emerged from the room, put down his AK-47 assault rifle then raped the girl while Cortez held her down.

Bierce said Barker told him that Green then picked up the weapon and shot her once, paused, and then shot her several more times.

Military prosecutors are expected to set out their case against Private First Class Jesse Spielman, Barker, Cortez and Private First Class Bryan Howard, who face charges of rape and murder among others.

If court-martialled and found guilty, they could face the death penalty.

Green faces the same charges in a U.S. federal court in Kentucky, home of the 502nd Infantry Regiment, his former unit. Green, who has pleaded not guilty, was discharged from the army for a "personality disorder".

A fifth soldier, Sergeant Anthony Yribe, is charged with dereliction of duty and making a false statement and will also appear at the hearing at a U.S. base next to Baghdad airport.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: deathpenalty; iraq; mahmoudiya; marines; personalitydisorder; rapists; us
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To: MineralMan
War trophies are not permitted (although General staff exempts themselves) So where to put such contraband would be a problem for enlisted men.

Semper Fidelis

21 posted on 08/07/2006 7:14:12 AM PDT by MrEdd (More cheep than a flock of baby chickens.)
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To: Thrusher

Sean Penn already did a movie like this, "Casualties of War," 1989 with Michael J. Fox.

I'm witholding final judgement until all the info is in, but if they did it, they deserve swift and cruel punishment. If they didn't do it, their names are forever blackened, many will never accept their innocence.


22 posted on 08/07/2006 7:19:40 AM PDT by DakotaRed
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To: em2vn

I am not to judge whether they're guilty or not.
Do you want my opinion? I'd like to believe the opposite, but no - this is believable. The details maybe seem blurred for them as they were drunk, but it seems the bunch went out to have some fun, raped the girl and killed her mother. This is reality of almost every war.


23 posted on 08/07/2006 7:20:24 AM PDT by twinself
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To: DakotaRed
Sean Penn already did a movie like this, "Casualties of War," 1989 with Michael J. Fox.

That's what I was thinking of when I made my post.

"Casualties of War II: How Bush Made Our Brave Soldiers Evil Rapists and Murderers, Again... Like Back When They Were In 'Nam... Which Was A Quagmire.... Like Iraq Is... And Bush Lied... And Cindy Sheehan Is Cool!"
24 posted on 08/07/2006 7:28:02 AM PDT by Thrusher ("...there is no peace without victory.")
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To: twinself

They were on patrol and they were drunk? I must have missed that information. Where did you find it?


25 posted on 08/07/2006 7:33:50 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: em2vn

Isn't that known as 'hearsay' and not acceptable for testimony????


26 posted on 08/07/2006 7:36:13 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Target the leaders. Once the head is gone, the body will die.)
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To: twinself
Good morning.
"Bierce said Barker told him that Green then picked up the weapon and shot her once, paused, and then shot her several more times."

I recently read a report that was supposed to be based on the testimony of an Iraqi medic who claimed to be one of the first people on site, who supposedly claimed to the military investigator that the rape victim was only shot once, in the face, under one eye.

Other FReepers commented on the similarity of the testimony to that of another Iraqi who who was also one of the first ones there, at a different time.

Why would officers involved in the investigation confide in a reporter who seems to be making this alleged incident a career?

If these guys are convicted they will justifiably suffer the maximum penalty under the law. Until then, I will continue to be skeptical.

Michael Frazier
27 posted on 08/07/2006 7:39:23 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: em2vn

Right at the end of the article it mentions that they were drinking whiskey and energy drink. I find this strange, how did they get whiskey? I thought that there wasnt supposed to be any alcohol in the islamic country for our soldiers?

Justice should be swift. Either clear them, or convict them quickly. I am not a fan of the muslims, but I will say this. At the point of her death, that little 14 year old girl had not harmed anyone. She was innocent as any child, and did not deserve such torture and death. If these guys actually did do this to a little girl, I think that they should be taken back to that village and summarily hung in public so that the people there know that we do not condone that sort of behavior any more than they do.


28 posted on 08/07/2006 7:45:06 AM PDT by Concho (IRS--Americas real terrorist organization.)
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To: twinself

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the Iraqi's forbid exhuming the girls remains for forensic DNA testing because it goes against islamic tradition? That would be some critical information that deserves to be studied. If these guys are guilty, get a noose. But if they are innocent and this is just a propaganda story, someone else's head needs to roll.


29 posted on 08/07/2006 7:50:08 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: MrEdd

"War trophies are not permitted "

Yes. Right. OK. Lots of things are not permitted.


30 posted on 08/07/2006 7:51:46 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: UCANSEE2

"Isn't that known as 'hearsay' and not acceptable for testimony????

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This is not a trial. It's a hearing to decide whether to hold a court martial. As in a grand jury, not all the rules of evidence apply.


31 posted on 08/07/2006 7:53:29 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: markomalley
Last time I checked, US soldiers do not carry the AK-47 (except, perhaps, as a war trophy).

IIRC, many of our troops favor the AK-47 for it's rugged reliability, and will pick one up to carry for use.

32 posted on 08/07/2006 7:54:41 AM PDT by ibheath (Born again and grateful to God.)
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To: em2vn

"Barker then switched positions with Cortez and attempted to rape the girl but said he was not sure if he had done so, Bierce told the hearing."

Is this in any way believable? "

How can he 'not be sure' if he raped a 14-year-old girl or not? How can you simply not recall something like that? Can a person cut a deal for their testimony in a military court?

As always, I remain skeptical of these reports until all is said and done with the investigation/trial.


33 posted on 08/07/2006 7:55:19 AM PDT by FarRightFanatic
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To: twinself

Totally agree with you my friend. If true, and this signed statement was from one of the soldiers present himself, then I hope they all fry. This is despicable, I don't know about some out there, but there is no excuse for this kind of degradation towards civilians, especially a young girl, iraqi or otherwise.


34 posted on 08/07/2006 7:55:53 AM PDT by World_Events
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To: Concho

Trust me, it ain't all peaches and cream in iraq or any other fundy country. Alcohol is there if you want it, don't believe the muslims don't touch alcohol mantra. Iraqis drink alcohol too. After all, prostitution was also regulated and tolerated under saddam's regime.


35 posted on 08/07/2006 7:57:48 AM PDT by World_Events
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To: MrEdd

I don't think it's a war trophy. The Iraqi's are are permitted to keep one personal weapon, an AK-47, and two magazines per household.

The troops have also been carrying "spare" AK's because they have more penetrating power for special use. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a lot of them stashed at observation posts and whatnot. There are just a lot of AK's in Iraq. They could have used the familys own AK.


36 posted on 08/07/2006 8:02:19 AM PDT by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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To: twinself

You sure seem to have already convicted our military men. I don't like that.


37 posted on 08/07/2006 8:11:57 AM PDT by Toby06 (True conservatives vote based on their values, not for parties.)
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To: twinself

If court-martialled and found guilty, they could face should receive the death penalty.

Any man can handle adversity, you wish to see their true character, give them power.
38 posted on 08/07/2006 8:15:27 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Toby06

And I don't have a problem with that. Truly I love to differ when my conscience tells me directly what is good and what is evil.


39 posted on 08/07/2006 8:22:22 AM PDT by twinself
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To: em2vn
(...)"According to an FBI affidavit, the men changed into civilian clothes after a drinking session and walked to the victims house, just 200 metres from their military checkpoint in a Sunni Arab area south of Baghdad.(...)

Graphic evidence in US troops' rape and murder trial

I assumed they didn't drink sparkling water.
40 posted on 08/07/2006 8:37:10 AM PDT by twinself
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