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Getting the picture on gay marriage
News-Observer(NC) ^ | August 5, 2006 | Ellen Goodman

Posted on 08/07/2006 5:14:14 AM PDT by Dane

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To: xzins; Elsie
Outstanding post #7, Elsie.

I definitely concur. Thanks for posting it.

21 posted on 08/07/2006 11:37:57 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Dane

Proof that ellen goodman does not have the intellectual capacity of a mosquito.

All her arguments are based on the individual. The INDIVIDUAL who for whatever reason does not have a child.

Society encourages the formation of pairings which maximize the production and raising of children.

Ellen, an adopted child (even by aunts and uncles)can be raise in a totally normal mother and father environment. Homosexuals can NEVER EVER EVER have a normal relationship with a child.

Goodman is trapped in the nhilistic me me me me hedonism of the left wing of society.


22 posted on 08/07/2006 11:39:11 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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23 posted on 08/07/2006 11:39:13 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Dane

"It was ruling in favor of 'procreationist marriage.'"

Well, duh.

That is what marriage is about -- it's not about two gals or two guys wanting to play house together.


24 posted on 08/07/2006 11:39:32 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: xzins
Outstanding post #7, Elsie.

Give thanks unto GOD!

25 posted on 08/07/2006 12:22:13 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: redfog
Justice Owens, along with fellow dissenters Chambers, Fairhurst and Bridge, believes “there is no rational basis for denying same-sex couples the right to marry.”

Perhaps she really meant -

"...no EARTHLY reason..."

(No WORLDLY reason)


She is absolutely right!

There, however, a HEAVENLY one:

If you want to go there; "Go and sin no more."

26 posted on 08/07/2006 12:26:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
 9.  Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
 10.  nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 


 
 
Do not be deceived...
 
 
Do not be deceived...
 
 
Do not be deceived...
 
 
Do not be deceived...
 
 
Do not be deceived!!!!

27 posted on 08/07/2006 12:32:22 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie

This article is so ridiculous. It's hard to take Ellen Goodman seriously. The crux of this, beyond the procreation argument, is that there is no discrimination in marriage laws. All men and all women are treated the same. Any eligible man can marry any eligible woman. It's only sarcasm for her to ssay why doesn't the court refuse to marry people past menopause.

And she says the recent court decisions have not applied logic. Because she disagrees?

I know that society has changed and continues to change. If there were a groundswell of support for same sex marriage as a public policy and a legal matter, state after state would be voting to allow it, instead of state after state voting to ban it.

I hope more such cases are decided this way. Homosexuals will have to make the case in the legislatures and the court of public opinion that they deserve marriage rights. As with anyone who wants legislation passed on any subject, they will have to make the case. Instead of just finding a judge to impose the policy preference, they will have to convince non-gay people and non-liberal people that same sex marriage makes sense.


28 posted on 08/07/2006 4:23:41 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The 8th circuit says that the state has an interest in steering procreation into marriage. Since a homosexual relationship has absolutely zero chance of procreation, then the state has no interest in muddying up marriage with that non-procreative relationship.


29 posted on 08/07/2006 4:32:46 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Supporting the troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
I know that society has changed and continues to change.

Malachi 3:6
"I the LORD do not change. So you, O descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed.


Matthew 7:13-14
13. "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.
14. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

30 posted on 08/08/2006 5:55:01 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: xzins
The 8th circuit says that the state has an interest in steering procreation into marriage.

This is absolutely not true!!!

The Government (we stupid taxpayers) subsidize, by the thousands, illegitimate kids all over this country. It will be the ruin of us all if we do not STOP this insane practice!


WIC

(Why is there no MIC????)

31 posted on 08/08/2006 5:58:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie
The court was talking about why it's ok for marriage to be only for one man and one woman. It said that it's in the best interest of the state to encourage having babies be born inside marriage to the mommies and daddies.

I agree with that.

That's entirely different than what does take place, but the above is the correct policy.

32 posted on 08/08/2006 6:01:37 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Supporting the troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins
It said that it's in the best interest of the state to encourage having babies be born inside marriage to the mommies and daddies.

It SAYS this, but practices the other!

33 posted on 08/09/2006 8:58:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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