Medic details finding Iraqi girl's body (Mahmoudiya hearing ,, the "Triangle of Death")

AP on Yahoo ^ | 8/6/06 | Ryan Lenz - ap

[marajade]

Well there are the dead bodies and they have bullet evidence. How can combat stress be a defense?

[TET1968]

Are their ballistic results?
Where was the green helmet guy?

[sinkspur]

This story is falling apart ~ no bodies, and a suspect witness.

As you know, there is no requirement for "bodies" for murder convictions. And, you simply refuse to admit that three of these men have admitted their involvement; in fact, it was THEY who alerted the military to the fact that American soldiers may have been the perps.

[sinkspur]

Well there are the dead bodies and they have bullet evidence. How can combat stress be a defense?

It's not, unless that's all the defense can use.

[mountainlyons]

I find nothing to rule out terrorists.

[marajade]

I mean they changed out of their uniforms, were off duty, and went into that house and raped that girl and killed the family.

Where's the combat stress in that situation?

[muawiyah]

Nobody "alerted the military". These guys had counseling sessions and higher levels of the command have read things into those sessions that may or may not be there.

Regarding having "bodies" for a murder case, that applies when, in fact, there are no "bodies". What we have here are "bodies" that the Iraqi authorities refuse to have examined to see if, among other things, they were shot to death and with what. We allow those we charge with law violations to have witnesses and evidence.

The key witness is also part of the Iraqui government, and he finally admits that the people could have been dead before they were shot.

[sinkspur]

Nobody "alerted the military". These guys had counseling sessions and higher levels of the command have read things into those sessions that may or may not be there.

You're wrong. Completely.

But, you will simply not accept anything that refutes your mistaken notions, as we have been through this before.

Our conversation is over.

[muawiyah]

Sinkspur you're the only one around here with "impressions". We've all been through every subtle nuance and detail of the materials available on the net and 100^ of everything is subject to question.

Not a good case yet ~

[sinkspur]

Sinkspur you're the only one around here with "impressions".

The DOJ has "impressions," as do the Marines.

[muawiyah]

Then it's not a "case" yet ~

[Doc91678]

If there is no DNA evidence then I don't see how they can convict these soldiers.

[brytlea]

I agree, and it really makes me angry. However, I don't see how this will end well for the US no matter what. I hope it ends well for the guys.
susie

[carola]

Weren't the three brutalized and murdered soldiers killed or kidnapped at Mahmoudiya part of the nine-member squad that all of the accused belonged to? If they had not been killed, I wonder if they would also be among the accused.

[La Enchiladita]

I hope it ends well for the guys.

Thanks, susie. So do I. But there's a long way to go.
I pray their lawyers are the best of the best and they have good cases.

[La Enchiladita]

The only thing I will say is that the WaPOO article lied about what Green's lawyer (Sheldon) said. Their spin diverged from the AP wire story re Sheldon's remarks.

WaPOO had a field day with spinning a yarn, and that was the reason the FReeper posted the WP story rather than the AP wire report.

[brytlea]

Agree about prayer.
susie

[twinself]

Yeah, you'd better pray for them. Prayer is what they need.

[stuck_in_new_orleans]

These charges are BS...this is a w3ar zone, in an asymmetrical war. Our soldiers were set-up by friggin' Iraqi liars,

uhhhh......they already admitted to it....geezzz....go get a clue