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Even dead people can't escape AOL
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH ^ | 08/04/2006 | David Sheets

Posted on 08/06/2006 7:53:47 AM PDT by BenLurkin

Maxine Gauthier doesn't own a computer. She doesn't know the first thing about Web browsing or sending e-mail. She's not even sure where to find a computer's "on" button, as she describes it.

Yet for the past nine months, she has been fighting one of the most persistent and some say irritating institutions in cyberspace: AOL, formerly known as America Online.

"An AOL service guy told me to stop complaining and learn to use a computer," she said. "Then he hung up."

Most of AOL's $1 billion in profits continues to come from subscriptions to dial-up service, a market it still dominates.

When Gauthier's father, Melvin Berkowitz, died last summer, he was living in Florida and had one credit card. Its only charges were to AOL. Gauthier's mother, Marion Berkowitz, now 80, and still living in Florida, had her name on the account but never used it.

Gauthier discovered the continuing dial-up service charge as she was settling her father's estate. She first called to cancel the AOL account last November.

With each subsequent call, AOL became more curt with Gauthier. During one exchange, "the guy - I think it was a manager - just told me to 'shut up and listen to what I have to say or don't bother calling.' Then he hung up on me," she said.

Finally, this month, Gauthier was able to cancel her father's credit card. The AOL charges, going back to last summer, were wiped away, and she was reimbursed for both the charges and late fees.

A few days ago, Gauthier obtained a letter from AOL that was sent to her mother in Florida. The letter was addressed to Melvin Berkowitz.

"Dear Mr. Berkowitz," it said. "We hope you'll come back to AOL."

(Excerpt) Read more at stltoday.com ...


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To: Hawthorn
C'mon, folks. Too many whiners out there! You need to get a life and cut the complaining.

I've used AOL exclusively for my Internet service since 1997, and I've never had cause for a serious complaint.

I'm sure there are many other AOL customers like me, totally satisfied -- even among the notoriously grouchy Freeper community!

It's just that the whiners and complainers are the ones who always make most of the noise.

Ho-hum. What else is new?

Did you forget to your "end sarcasm" tag?

Did you even read this story? Do you think this woman was "whining"?

If you were charged over and over for something you never ordered or wanted, and you tried to stop the charges, would that also qualify as "whining".

Evidently, you prefer to just bend over and take it.

You are the perfect AOL customer.

21 posted on 08/06/2006 9:08:47 AM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: bert
I have all Dell computers in my office and in no way make a derogatory Dell statement.

I love my roommate's Dell. It is very user-friendy. If it gets a virus, I just reboot an older profile and the virus is gone.

But if Dell is working with AOL to link AOL subscriptions with Dell customers using the same credit card # that was used to purchase their Dell, then this is something that needs to be addressed --or at least warned about.

22 posted on 08/06/2006 9:10:57 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Kimmers
We had a similar problem with cable service after my dad died...they finally stopped sending a bill when my brother wrote them back and told them to send the bill to heaven because that is where he could be found and he doubted they had cable in heaven.

Hell, perhaps, but I'm sure it's HD digital satellite in heaven. :-)

23 posted on 08/06/2006 9:13:37 AM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: BenLurkin

AOL has very recently (like last week) switched to a "free" service, supported by advertising. They'll still offer dialup for those who have no ISP, but the service itself no longer carries a fee. You can keep your AOL e-mail addresses, and check your mail at aol.com. This is even true of accounts cancelled in the past two years; just go there, log in with screen name and password, and there you go.

As far as nuisance recurring charges, call your bank or credit union, dispute the charges, cancel the card and get another one with a different number. Most financial institutions will do this free of charge, to prevent fraud. Problem solved.

I kept my AOL account all these years, under the "bring your own access" plan at $4.95 per month, just to keep the e-mail addresses. For various reasons, it was a probelm for me to be able to get rid of them. Now, it doesn't cost anything at all, like a Yahoo address.


24 posted on 08/06/2006 9:28:43 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: GLDNGUN

If that is the case I hope he has unlimited access to college football in HD.....


25 posted on 08/06/2006 9:30:45 AM PDT by Kimmers
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To: Hawthorn

I went through the same thing when I wanted to cancel my late father's account. AOL was demanding a certified copy of his death certificate (which I would have to buy from the state) in order to cancel the service.

They were the most unpleasant people I had to deal with during the entire process. They finally cancelled when I informed them that the credit card account had been closed and that they couldn't get any more money.

They may a good company for their customers, but try and cancel. Then you can watch their fangs come out.


26 posted on 08/06/2006 9:40:23 AM PDT by MediaMole (9/11 - We have already forgotten.)
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To: BenLurkin

I despise AOL and look forward to their eventual demise. I hope every single investor loses every stinking penny.


27 posted on 08/06/2006 10:26:36 AM PDT by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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To: Kimmers
he doubted they had cable in heaven.

I'd kinda like to believe that there is cable in Heaven. Preferably, high-definition widescreen with free HBO.

:-)

28 posted on 08/06/2006 10:29:11 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: NY Attitude

I would NEVER use a debit card. The amount comes out of your account immediately.


29 posted on 08/06/2006 10:30:58 AM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: BenLurkin
Even dead people can't escape AOL

This just confirms that I was right. Everytime O had a trial account with AOL, I bailed before the trial ended - I just didn't care for it.

I'm glad I listened to me. Today, I wouldn't have AOL on a bet.
30 posted on 08/06/2006 10:32:22 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Katya
I had a credit card that I only used for an "automatic reorder" with a business supplier.

When I needed to cancel the supplier, I could not reach anyone at all for 3 weeks, which was long enough for an unwanted delivery to be sent. So, I canceled the credit card.

When I called Visa, they demanded to know why I was canceling and I explained the situation. The guy on the "customer service" line laughed and told me that no credit card number was ever really canceled and if a merchant had the number, they could continue to send merchandise and bill the account. I was stunned, told him to cancel the account, sent them the copies of my request to the supplier to cease shipment and enclosed a formal letter promising to sue Visa if any further orders were accepted and charged.

I received no more bills from that card, ever and this was over 4 years ago. It took another two weeks after canceling the card to finally receive an acknowledgment from the supplier that my account with them had finally been canceled.

Even if I use something on a regular basis, I no longer authorize automatic resupply.
31 posted on 08/06/2006 10:33:47 AM PDT by reformedliberal ("Eliminate the mullahs and Islam shall disappear in fifty years." Ayatollah Khomeini)
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To: reformedliberal

"The guy on the "customer service" line laughed and told me that no credit card number was ever really canceled and if a merchant had the number, they could continue to send merchandise and bill the account"

If this were the case, expiration dates would be unnecessary. Sounds like this CSR was compensated based upon "retention," and was taking a little creative license to prevent cancellation. I've cancelled VISA cards on three different occasions in the past five years, but I wasn't closing out the account, just getting a different number because of fraudulent activities, or the fear of that potential. Never had a problem.


32 posted on 08/06/2006 11:02:17 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Cobra64
What you say is true, it is the same as using cash. Debit cards have their pluses and minuses. The one good thing about a debit card is that a bank will not remove any money from your account once a debit card number has been canceled.
33 posted on 08/06/2006 11:02:24 AM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: NY Attitude
The one good thing about a debit card is that a bank will not remove any money from your account once a debit card number has been canceled.

Why would you want a bank to remove money from your account anyway. We check charges, and if correct, pay our off credit cards on a regular basis. I've heard horrible stories about people getting fleeced by crooked merchants.

34 posted on 08/06/2006 11:10:47 AM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: Cobra64
I had an occurence where a waiter swiped my debit card on a machine that could read the magnetic stripe. This holds true for credit cards as well. The waiter had called a dating service and also charged a cellular phone to the card. Since I use on-line banking, I check the balances and transactions every other day. I saw this fraudulent charge and called the bank. The bank was very helpful, put the money back in within 2 business days and sent the report to their fraud department. I have good luck so far using a debit card.
35 posted on 08/06/2006 11:26:34 AM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Yes, I agree. I have never had a problem before or since when I have closed an account, mainly just to decrease my own ability to accumulate debt.


36 posted on 08/06/2006 11:37:07 AM PDT by reformedliberal ("Eliminate the mullahs and Islam shall disappear in fifty years." Ayatollah Khomeini)
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To: Hawthorn
I've used AOL exclusively for my Internet service since 1997, and I've never had cause for a serious complaint.

As on of the previous posters, obviously a discerning man, mentioned, AOL ruined the internet. Anyone with an AOL address is immediatley suspect and should only be allowed to post to other AOL customers. Seriously. I'm glad you had a good AOL experience and am sorry you can't read. Now go back to sleep like the rest of your tribe.

37 posted on 08/06/2006 11:40:15 AM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*)
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To: BenLurkin

index for later


38 posted on 08/06/2006 11:41:26 AM PDT by smonk
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To: BenLurkin
Finally, this month, Gauthier was able to cancel her father's credit card.

When I dumped AOL for cable several years ago the only way I could stop the charges was by canceling the credit card. Email and phone calls did no good.
39 posted on 08/06/2006 11:43:51 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Hawthorn
I've used AOL exclusively for my Internet service since 1997, and I've never had cause for a serious complaint.

Wait until you try to quit.
40 posted on 08/06/2006 11:47:15 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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