Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Officials: U.S., France reach Mideast resolution (US Appeasement?)
Yahoo/AP ^ | 8/5/2006 | AP

Posted on 08/05/2006 8:00:16 AM PDT by tobyhill

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 141-154 next last
To: varon

You have made a very important point.

Even if the Hezzies are part of the government of Lebanon, they do not represent it as a state. Even within their own country, they are a foreign sponsored rebel faction.

And the UN has just accorded them the status of a state.


61 posted on 08/05/2006 9:37:50 AM PDT by livius
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]

To: the invisib1e hand
"The Six-Day Ceasefire?"

Possibly the 6 hour or 6 minute ceasefire.

But then again, maybe not. The Hezbos have shown themselves to be militarily somewhat inept, but politically sophisticated. They might decide it's a good time to rearm. After all, Abdabbadingdong of Iran, who is pulling the strings, has called for a cease fire, while at the same time continuing to call for the elimination of Israel.

62 posted on 08/05/2006 9:39:28 AM PDT by El Gato
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: tobyhill
This is actually something that may work:

In this corner:

1. The mighty United States of America - the world's Hyper-power - defender of freedom, justice, God given rights, and of tiny Israel.

And in this corner....

2. France: Appeaser, Collaborator, World Power Wannabe, United Nations synchophant, European Union and "wish we ruled the world" dreamer, hater of Israel, harborer of Sucha Arafat, friend to the terrorists.

I guess the "world" will buy this.

63 posted on 08/05/2006 9:41:01 AM PDT by SkyPilot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tobyhill
Bolton refused to comment on the text, but an official with knowledge of the document said the draft calls for a “full cessation of violence” between Israel and Hezbollah, but would allow Israel the right to launch strikes if Hezbollah attacks it.

Huh?? Isn't that what brought us to this point??

64 posted on 08/05/2006 9:43:08 AM PDT by veronica (Clown Posse - where every thread is a stupid vanity thread...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tobyhill
Bolton refused to comment on the text, but an official with knowledge of the document said the draft calls for a “full cessation of violence” between Israel and Hezbollah, but would allow Israel the right to launch strikes if Hezbollah attacks it.

Hezbollah will never stop the attacks ... so this resolution is meaningless ... just like all the others they pass

65 posted on 08/05/2006 9:47:48 AM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MindBender26

?


66 posted on 08/05/2006 9:48:59 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, July 27, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 59 | View Replies]

To: Mo1

If this is any resemblance of how the UN took care of Iraq, they've got about 14 more resolutions to go.


67 posted on 08/05/2006 9:50:42 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: tobyhill

It's illusionary. No side will agree to the terms, so no foul no harm.


68 posted on 08/05/2006 9:52:07 AM PDT by Perdogg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tobyhill

I couldn't agree more with the basic synopsis of the thread: UN resolutions aren't worth the paper they are printed on.
That being said, I cannot keep myself from thinking that anything that is done by Bolton in the UN is followed with a wink and a nod towards Israel behind closed doors.
We would never sell out Israel for the useless, corrupt, anti-semitic UN.


69 posted on 08/05/2006 9:55:25 AM PDT by JerseyDvl ("If you attack Americans, we'll defend your right to do it."- The Democrat Party)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg

It also seems that the Illegally kidnapped soldiers return is just a factor of irrelevance to all parties other than Israel.


70 posted on 08/05/2006 9:56:03 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 68 | View Replies]

To: All
I'm not worried about this at all. UN enforce this 'treaty'? Nope. They never haven never will. Hezzboes already rejected it anyway. Israel will move in and wipe Hezz out. But the UN still have their 'treaty'--how nice for them.

The Army of Appeasement of the 1930's will not win in 2006.

71 posted on 08/05/2006 9:57:39 AM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Forth Century)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg
"It's illusionary. No side will agree to the terms, so no foul no harm.

Just another UN Res"illusion".

72 posted on 08/05/2006 9:59:19 AM PDT by melt (French military victories in one word: F"ran"ce.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 68 | View Replies]

To: tobyhill
If this is any resemblance of how the UN took care of Iraq

It's not just with Iraq

Look at any country they slapped resolutions on .. the bad guys either ignore them or pay them off

The UN is a complete joke

73 posted on 08/05/2006 10:01:20 AM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: tobyhill

Did I miss something? Was Israel made our 51st state and subject to our State Dept. peace agreements...? Oh yes, the illegal peace plan between Clinton and Shimon Peres (unelected has-been) counts as precedent.

Hell, why don't we have outsiders tell us our response to 9-11 is over the top and force our government into an artifical peace with AQ!!!


74 posted on 08/05/2006 10:05:10 AM PDT by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NorCalRepub
"I think it is a good move....since you know Hezzie will mess up....and then be the bad guys again"
____________________________

I think the long term key is how strong will the Lebanese govt. be? Will they have the ability to police their southern areas and disarm the terrorists? We know the UN won't be able to.
75 posted on 08/05/2006 10:08:44 AM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv

Keyhole. NRO has digital-imaging satellites known as Keyhole. For example, a KH-11 is a school bus-sized satellite in a polar orbit from where it can deliver very high resolution pictures in visible light and infrared. It can see at night in good weather.

KH-11 sensors operate in visible and near infrared light, as well as thermal infrared to detect heat sources. The sensors have low-light image intensifiers to see at night. Advanced KH-11 infrared heat sensors detect camouflage and buried structures, and can be used to determine whether factories are operating or not. KH-11 satellites transmit images in real time to ground stations via Milstar communications relay satellites.

Keyhole satellites are in egg-shaped elliptical orbits ranging from a low of 175 miles to a high of 625 miles above Earth. Each passes over its assigned observation target on the ground twice a day.
KH-1, also known as Corona, was the United States' first photo-reconnaissance satellite. The system operated from 1960-1972. More about Corona >>


KH-7 was a film-return satellite operated from 1963-67. The older KH-7 offered about 18-20-in. resolution.


KH-8, also known as Gambit, also snapped photographs with conventional cameras, then dropped their exposed rolls to Earth. They flew 50 missions from 1966-1984. The satellites in that system each carried a single film pod and could fly down as low as 80 miles over the Soviet Union. That allowed them to show things as small as 3-4-in.


KH-9, also known as Project Octagon, was a film return system of about 20 satellites from 1971-1986. They also snapped photographs with conventional cameras, then dropped their exposed rolls to Earth. KH-9 satellites referred to as Big Birds carried four film return canisters. A typical KH-9 carried two 60-in.-diameter camera lenses for stereo pictures with 6-in. resolution. It has been reported that five of the satellites also had mapping cameras with 12-in. lenses see 9-24-in. objects on the ground. KH-9 photos have been used in maps programmed into the Tomahawk cruise missile navigation system.


KH-10 would have been used in a once-proposed military space station, the Manned Orbiting Lab. The Lab never flew.


KH-11 is digital-imaging non-film satellite with 4-6-in. resolution. The first was launched in 1976.


KH-12, or Advanced KH-11, weighs 30,000 lbs. and can see 100 miles to the left and right of its ground track. The resolution of the optical images are said to be as fine as 4-6 in. during daytime. At night, other infrared and radar satellites can see things as small as 2-3 ft.
As war started in March 2003, six NRO high-resolution imaging satellites maintained hourly watch over Iraq. They were three Advanced KH-11 satellites with infrared and optical cameras and three Lacrosse radar satellites able to search at night and in bad weather for production of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction and missiles


Lacrosse. The NRO also operates a clutch of radar-imaging spysats known as Lacrosse. They also have been referred to as Onyx, Vega, Indigo and other code names. Each of these huge sky-high night watchers weighs 15 tons and is as big as a school bus. They orbit 400 miles above Earth's surface.

Lacrosse is built around a synthetic aperture radar (SAR), which can see through clouds and send down photographic-quality images. Each satellite has a huge wire-mesh radar antenna and 150-ft. solar panels to generate the kilowatts of electricity required by its powerful radar transmitter.

Each Lacrosse passes over its assigned observation target on the ground twice a day, peering down through bad weather to show military commanders elsewhere on the ground where to strike and what damage was caused by strikes. Lacrosse satellites can show objects as small as a foot across at night and in bad weather. Big objects on the ground, like tanks or surface-to-air (SAM) missiles, can be seen even if hidden in a woods.


76 posted on 08/05/2006 10:09:25 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop
I would be surprised if the US were to sell Israel out.

That would enrage the Republican base and the GOP can't afford that.

77 posted on 08/05/2006 10:11:15 AM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: the invisib1e hand
"The Six-Day Ceasefire?"
_________________________________

I don't think so. The terrorists win by just surving. They can return (how do you figure out whose a terrorist by looking at people). They have gained stature in the eyes of the Lebanese people and may be able to gain more power in the govt. They will be resupplied and sneak their weapons back in. Who is going to stop them?
78 posted on 08/05/2006 10:14:52 AM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: varon

"What they have done is give standing to a political militia equal to that of a nation state, Israel."
____________________________________

Great Point!

The other problem is with that elevated status can they gain increased control over the govt. through elections?


79 posted on 08/05/2006 10:22:38 AM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]

To: MindBender26

:')


80 posted on 08/05/2006 10:23:15 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, July 27, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 141-154 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson