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Anti-war, Anti-Israel, Anti-Joe: The New Democrats.
The Weekly Standard ^ | 08/14/06 | William Kristol

Posted on 08/05/2006 6:14:01 AM PDT by Pokey78

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1 posted on 08/05/2006 6:14:02 AM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78

Bump.


2 posted on 08/05/2006 6:24:02 AM PDT by Rocko ( Hezbollah isn't crying UNCLE; they're crying UN....)
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To: Pokey78

I do not favor throwing Rumsfeld under the bus and the idea that he can be replaced by Liberman is ludicrous. Liberman has no experience running a big organization.


3 posted on 08/05/2006 6:25:05 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Pokey78; Former Military Chick; zot; SeraphimApprentice; Dark Skies; Interesting Times; D-fendr; ...

How about this for as a new slogan for the dims "I love Jews, but hate Israel." It makes as much sense as supporting the troops and being against the war on terrorism. Also, "hating the war in Iraq" makes as much sense as having said in WW2: I hate the war in North Africa, it didn't attack us, the Japs did and FDR hasn't caught Hirihito yet." or "I hate the war in Burma, but...."

Folks have lost site of the larger scale of the war we are in.


4 posted on 08/05/2006 6:25:48 AM PDT by GreyFriar ( (3rd Armored Division - Spearhead))
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To: ClaireSolt
Don't worry about Rumsfeld. He said he is going to stick around for the Iranian invasion just so he can listen to Hillaryous 'bad word'!
5 posted on 08/05/2006 6:28:35 AM PDT by do the dhue (If you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem. Just say 'no' to demorats!)
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To: Pokey78
I would think so. The remaining rational Democrats would jump ship. And if the Democrats do regain the House in November, its likely to be by a narrow margin; long-term demographic trends are working against them and their party is being driven to the left by their kooks.

(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em Down Hezbullies.)

6 posted on 08/05/2006 6:29:55 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: GreyFriar

That's pretty funny.


7 posted on 08/05/2006 6:29:59 AM PDT by Red6
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To: Pokey78

Anti-war, anti-Israel, anti-Joe, anti-individual, anti-freedom, anti-life: The Democrat Crime Syndicate.

Interesting article by Kristol. I don't agree that we need to make a stopped clock The Secreatary of Defense.


8 posted on 08/05/2006 6:30:05 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Pokey78

The Democrats fear Americans with pickup truck and shot guns.

The Democrats fear Americans that believe in God.

The Democrats do NOT fear Islamists with RPG's, WMD.....

The Democrats do NOT fear Islamists who refer to us as infidels.
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As whacko as I sound, and I know it sounds far out there; I am not that far off base. Look at Clinton and his games with our Constitutional right to bear arms, Ruby Ridge, Waco TX yet what was AQ doing, Iran, Iraq, Hebollah…..? The liberal looks at the world upside down and claims he’s ‘intellectual’ because of this.


9 posted on 08/05/2006 6:39:41 AM PDT by Red6
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Ruby Ridge

Ruby Ridge happened under Bush the Elder.

10 posted on 08/05/2006 6:48:46 AM PDT by dirtboy (Why does Israel take border security seriously but we do not, when Islamists wish us both harm?)
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"Last week, in a national poll, the Los Angeles Times asked the following (tendentious) question: "As you may know, Israel has responded to rocket attacks from the Lebanese group Hezbollah by bombing Beirut and other cities in Lebanon."

Tendentious is an understatement. Like there was peace in Middle East until Hezbollah started launching rockets for no reason whatsover.

11 posted on 08/05/2006 6:51:44 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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"Its performance as a governing party in time of war is, admittedly, another matter. Do we have a strategy for victory in Iraq?"

Hey, Mr. Chief Neocon! You asked for this war. In fact, you demanded it.

You ignored all the warnings and made stupid statements like "There's been a certain amount of pop sociology in America that the Shia can't get along with the Sunni and the Shia in Iraq want to establish some kind of Islamic fundamentalist regime. There's been almost no evidence of that at all. Iraq's always been very secular."

But now it's Bush's fault because he doesn't have a strategy to overcome what YOU said wasn't going to be a problem. Man, it takes some cojones (or a very short memory) to write that.

12 posted on 08/05/2006 7:05:10 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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The truth that Rumsfeld couldn't say is that first of all, Iraq will have a complex solution, and one in which, though they won't be fighting anymore, US forces will remain there for at least a decade. Much like they did in Germany.

Second, no matter what he might say, it would just be fuel for the election fire. Literally, if he says anything but gobbledygook niceties, it will be horribly abused.

Rumsfeld: "We are planning to do 'A'".

The MSM: "That's wrong, you should do 'B', 'C', 'D', 'E' and 'F'??? Are you mad?"

Hillary: "Doing 'A' just means they have no plan."

Murtha: "Nooo! They have to do 'K'. That's just something I though up the other day, but it is the ONLY ALTERNATIVE."

Dean: "Rumsfeld should resign for even suggesting 'A'."

Daily KOS: "Bush should be impeached for saying 'A'. It means that he is corrupt and eeevil!"

Al Gore: "No. No. No. Bush must do 'X*J+L/Q', or it will destroy the atmosphere. Which would be bad."

etc., ad nauseum. Is it any wonder that Rumsfeld didn't say anything of moment?


13 posted on 08/05/2006 7:15:04 AM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: Popocatapetl

More like: 'Demi-rats'


14 posted on 08/05/2006 7:21:04 AM PDT by NickatNite2003
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To: Pokey78
lol.

The New Democrats are just openly stupid.

15 posted on 08/05/2006 7:22:21 AM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: dirtboy

You're right,

August (Ridge) /November (Election outcome) were the dates.

Still - Ask most liberals if they saw Saddam as a threat and the answer is no. Then ask him about gun control. The MSM loooooooooves stories about Aryan racists, but talks about the "religion of peace". You have Clinton throwing his own personal lawyers on gun control and AQ doing what they want in Somalia and trying to bring the WTC down in 1993 already. They are whacko’s but consider themselves ‘intellectual’.


16 posted on 08/05/2006 7:24:26 AM PDT by Red6
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To: GreyFriar; namsman; sionnsar
"How about this for as a new slogan for the dims "I love Jews, but hate Israel." It makes as much sense as supporting the troops and being against the war on terrorism. Also, "hating the war in Iraq" makes as much sense as having said in WW2: I hate the war in North Africa, it didn't attack us, the Japs did and FDR hasn't caught Hirihito yet." or "I hate the war in Burma, but....""

That's great - I'm going to steal it and use it quite frequently!

17 posted on 08/05/2006 7:29:41 AM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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Or, why not Mayor Bloomberg? Or Hillary Clinton? The crossover vote is there, and there's no reason to do stupid things to grab it.


18 posted on 08/05/2006 7:34:48 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, July 27, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Ruby Ridge

At the risk of highjacking the thread, a distinction between Ruby Ridge and Waco is that Ruby Ridge was government agents on the scene going over the line whereas Waco was Clinton green-lighting Janet Reno to go in there with tanks and attack the compound, resulting the deaths of some 80+ men, women and children.

Where was the media and the Europeans on this "war crime" resulting in the deaths of innocent children?

19 posted on 08/05/2006 7:35:14 AM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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Well, the Republicans have become tax-and-spend pseudo-conservative crypto-liberals, budget-wise. Why shouldn't the party absorb pro-abortion, pro-gay-agenda, countercultural Democrats who happen to have a realistic attitude about the GWOT? That would complete its transformation into the New Democrat Party and it could squeeze the conservatives out into the cold again for forty years. Heck, Hillary could run as a Republican in the Lieberman wing of the new party!

Sounds like a plan to me!

20 posted on 08/05/2006 7:38:01 AM PDT by TheGeezer (I.will.never.vote.for.John.McCain.)
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