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To: cjmae
I think Christians have obstructed their own paths over the years.

I'd like you to think about something: who are "christians?" Are the all the same? Do they all burn altars on Easter Island? Do they all do the same things, think the same thoughts, solve problems the same way? Do you know what the circumstances were at the alleged altar burning?

Now, substitute the word "blacks" for "christians" in your sentence, just to get a feel for what prejudice sounds like when it's subject is not who we expect it to be.

I have left out the whole question of whether or not burning an altar to a false god is an appropriate course of action.

You watch a lot of PBS, don't you? /rhetorical question.

26 posted on 08/05/2006 5:09:45 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (will you still be all gung ho about euthenasia when your kids want to do it to you?)
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To: the invisib1e hand
I think Christians have obstructed their own paths over the years.

And I have also offered only the merest hint at how instrumental, how indispensable, Christianity has been in bringing understanding of the Laws of Nature and Nature's God to mankind -- understanding and beneficial application. It would make a fascinating story, if it were ever to be told.

27 posted on 08/05/2006 5:12:03 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (will you still be all gung ho about euthenasia when your kids want to do it to you?)
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To: the invisib1e hand
I did not say all Christians and you must have not read my entire statement as I explained that many Christians don't seem to have faith in their faith.
If God gave us the freedom to choose then why do so many Christian leaders want to strictly mandate how we act, what we do, what we see and hear?
Wherfore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of law. For they stumbled on the stumbling stone. (Romans 9-32)
I believe that applies to all Christians and not only to the Jews.
I heard of a Pentecostal preacher who's church I attended speak of his daughter as an elephant that he would keep tied up to a stake so that when he untied her she would have been trained not to leave the boundary of the chain.
This of course was rhetorical but it illustrated to me the lack of faith that he would have had in his own daughter to make her own decisions, or for that matter in the power of prayer.
My mother and her siblings were raised in a strict dictatorial home and it only built resentment.
Hey, I loved my grandfather who has passed on and I love my grandmother who is still with us but I don't see the use of the intended free will if you force someone to obey what you think is correct.
Baptists don't believe in the gifts of the spirit.
Seventh day adventists believe strictly in predestination.
Catholics pray to dead people.
The Jehovah's Witnesses believe they will be the 144,000 spoke of in Revelation but there are obviously more than 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses.
The body of Christ is not in one accord and the majority of their beliefs come from the same information.
I don't know much but I do believe that faith can not be forced into someone.
You either believe or you don't.
So, yes I believe that (some Christians) get in the way of their own paths. By the way, I only seem to watch PBS when they are trying to raise money.
It seems that is when they show the good stuff.
I do watch a lot of the History Channel though.
31 posted on 08/06/2006 8:07:35 AM PDT by cjmae (Sanity was not equally distributed)
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