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John Grogan | Time to unload on gun stupidity (Triple Philly Socialist Hurl Alert)
The Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | August 4th, 2006 | John Grogan

Posted on 08/04/2006 8:10:39 AM PDT by 2banana

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ping to myself for later read.


21 posted on 08/04/2006 9:26:37 AM PDT by CSM ("The fatter we get as a country the more concerned we get about smoking" - ichabod1)
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To: EdReform

Don't you know that Eddie the Eagle turns kids into gun toting thugs and causes all sorts of accidents and shootings? But teaching the fundamentals of condom use prevents pregnancies while (barely) teaching kids how to drive a car and sending them onto American highway carnage is just fine.


22 posted on 08/04/2006 9:33:37 AM PDT by groanup (sunshine or thunder)
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To: EdReform
"And more schools need to teach the NRA's Eddie Eagle GunSafe® Program."

Correct you are. And THAT is the REAL crux of the problem. If the kid's parents or the kid's school had actually taught the rudiments of GUN SAFETY, then there would more than likely have been no problem, and the kid would be alive today.

Why should gun owners be responsible for the failures of others???

23 posted on 08/04/2006 9:33:39 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

Philly had fewer murders last year than it did in '94 before shall issue CC permit requirements were extended to the city by Harrisburg.


24 posted on 08/04/2006 9:35:45 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: groanup

Yup! ;0)


25 posted on 08/04/2006 9:45:22 AM PDT by EdReform (Protect our 2nd Amendment Rights - Join the NRA today - www.nra.org)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Indeed. All kids need to go through the Eddie Eagle program.

Down here in Alabama last spring, we had a middle school boy who was shot and killed with a pellet rifle; he and some friends found his father's pellet rifle in the garage and were fooling around with it. He was shot in the chest at close range. Very sad.


26 posted on 08/04/2006 9:55:43 AM PDT by EdReform (Protect our 2nd Amendment Rights - Join the NRA today - www.nra.org)
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To: 2banana

Seems like a lot of children fall out of windows these days. Evil Gravity?


27 posted on 08/04/2006 9:57:19 AM PDT by wolfcreek (You can spit in our tacos and you can rape our dogs but, you can't take away our freedom!)
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To: 2banana
There had been an accident involving two boys and a loaded handgun, and I had arrived early for the service.

"I figured there would be photographers and I wanted to get there before all the good backdrops were too crowded."

Outside, the undertaker paced, waiting for the family to arrive, and a priest smoked a cigarette, ready to pray.

"I waited inside where the lighting favored my complexion. I had to turn off a couple of the overheads, because they were throwing unflattering shadows."

Inside, I stood alone beside a small casket holding an 8-year-old boy, shot through the forehead by his best friend.

"I think it made for a dramatic pose, even though the family wouldn't let me take the body out of the casket and carry it around with me. But I think I come off looking pretty sympathetic. In one shot, the light hits my eyes and it looks like I'm crying. I've still got the pictures, wanna see?"

28 posted on 08/04/2006 10:13:49 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: 2banana
Is the right to bear arms really worth this price?

Yes.

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29 posted on 08/04/2006 10:30:12 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: 2banana

Should have brought up the higher numbers with autos.


30 posted on 08/04/2006 10:36:03 AM PDT by looscnnn ("Olestra (Olean) applications causes memory leaks" PC Confusious)
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To: 2banana

And just why was this trusted 14 YO rumaging and ransaking the house?

"Unsecured" is meant to imply laying on the kitchen table, next to the can opener used to open the dog food.

More likely, it was in either a desk or bedside drawer; perhaps even in a box on a closet shelf.


31 posted on 08/04/2006 10:37:51 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: 2banana
Should be more like Time to unload on stupidity

or

Time to unload on people lacking common sense

32 posted on 08/04/2006 10:40:24 AM PDT by looscnnn ("Olestra (Olean) applications causes memory leaks" PC Confusious)
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To: coloradan

Apparently there is a Gary Mauser too. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Gary_Mauser

Makes one hell of a rifle, also.


33 posted on 08/04/2006 10:49:40 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: MarkeyD

"I guess that will be the last book of his I'll buy. (Marley and Me)"

Have you ever read such a more narcissistic and pedantic book?

Not to mention the laughable inconsistencies from page one:

St. Shaun was a) from a puppy mill b) an unwanted (read "rescue") dog.

Sheesh.


34 posted on 08/04/2006 10:50:25 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: MarkeyD

That IS a great book!


35 posted on 08/04/2006 11:01:02 AM PDT by Muzzle_em (taglines are for sissies)
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To: Muzzle_em
That's not what Sam Hill thinks. :o

I liked it too.
36 posted on 08/04/2006 11:03:10 AM PDT by MarkeyD (The patriotism of the New York Times = The humanity of an Islamic terrorist.)
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To: Tribune7
Grogan is stuck on stupid

Until he recognizes the REAL root cause of the problems in Philly ... it will never be fixed

Guns have been around for thousands of years .. but many parts of Philly haven't always been the hell hole it is today

37 posted on 08/04/2006 11:03:18 AM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
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To: Sam Hill

I guess I'm not that deep.


38 posted on 08/04/2006 11:03:34 AM PDT by MarkeyD (The patriotism of the New York Times = The humanity of an Islamic terrorist.)
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To: MarkeyD

"“You know,” she said, looking up. “I tried so hard and look what happened. I can’t even keep a stupid houseplant alive. I mean, how hard is that? All you need to do is water the damn thing. ”

Then she got to the real issue: “If I can’t even keep a plant alive, how am I ever going to keep a baby alive?” She looked like she might start crying.

The Baby Thing, as I called it, had become a constant in Jenny’s life and was getting bigger by the day..."

Yep. That's deep all right.

Chacune son goo, I guess.


39 posted on 08/04/2006 11:08:54 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: 2banana
"Stop! Don't touch! Leave the area! Tell an adult!", says Eddie Eagle.

If this simple jimgle were allowed to replace the "guns bad, no guns good" mantra, how many lives could be saved every year?

Rudimentary firearms safety education at the elementary level is readily available from the NRA.

These people don't care about safety, they only care about eliminating guns, so they'd be damned first before they would actually teach anyone how to be safe around firearms.

Now, didn't anyone tell that boy not to go messing with other people's stuff? A smidgin of 'home training' might have saved his life, too.

40 posted on 08/04/2006 11:08:55 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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