[speekinout]

Maybe you should be quicker to assign the papers. I got totally sucked into a scam by one of my HS teachers who said we could either learn the material, or write a paper showing why it was irrelevant.

The latter choice is appealing - you can make the teacher look silly, you think. But you have to learn a lot more than just the basic course material to even try.

Many students don't have a concept of "goals". but they for sure do know about "challenges".

[CottonBall]

Maybe you should be quicker to assign the papers. I got totally sucked into a scam by one of my HS teachers who said we could either learn the material, or write a paper shoing why it was irrelevant.

Nah. It was purely a discipline tool. Trying to have a student learn a new math concept by writing about it would be like having a student learn how to draw by writing about how a painting is done. Not effective. Especially for those that required the paper assigned - not the sharpest crayons in the box.

Many students don't have a concept of "goals". but they for sure do know about "challenges".

That may be the problem with today's students. Most seniors ought to have goals. And not be required to be entertained or played mind games with in order to learn. That would be fine for freshmen, but college-bound seniors should've matured beyond that point.