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Senate votes to fund the fence (Senate embarrassed, House Republicans remain adamant,security first)
Washington Times ^ | August 3, 2006 | Stephen Dinan & Brian DeBose

Posted on 08/03/2006 5:03:22 AM PDT by IrishMike

The Senate did an abrupt about-face yesterday, voting overwhelmingly to begin paying for 370 miles of fencing and 500 miles of vehicle barriers on the U.S.-Mexico border, just three weeks after voting against the same spending. The amendment's sponsor said senators were so embarrassed by that July 13 vote that most felt they had to reverse course and vote for it this time -- especially after so many were on record in May voting to build the fence in the first place. The amendment, which provides nearly $2 billion for the project, passed 94-3, with 66 senators switching from "no" to "yes" votes since last month. "I think people wanted to get right," said Sen. Jeff Sessions, Alabama Republican. "People heard from their constituents after they voted to authorize the fence in May and then voted against funding it a couple of weeks ago." The fence has become one of the flash points as Congress and President Bush try to craft a new immigration enforcement policy this year piece by piece. Mr. Bush travels to Texas today to review operations at the border, including the success of his plan to deploy the National Guard to assist the U.S. Border Patrol in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. This week, the president reached his goal of assigning 6,000 Guard troops to the border states by Aug. 1. Still, of the 6,340 troops assigned as of yesterday, only 2,675 troops, or 42 percent, were "forward deployed." The rest are at joint task force headquarters, in training or in transit. But the Guard's presence has led to a 25 percent drop in apprehensions at the border compared with the same time last year, suggesting the troops are having success in preventing illegal aliens from trying to cross.

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1 posted on 08/03/2006 5:03:25 AM PDT by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike
What about the other 2000 miles ?


BUMP

2 posted on 08/03/2006 5:05:14 AM PDT by capitalist229 (Get Democrats out of our pockets and Republicans out of our bedrooms.)
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To: IrishMike

Thought they could play the ole', I voted for it before I voted against it" B$, but we called them on it. They can't play their little games anymore without the base knowing about it. That they would do it in the first place says much about the character of the people we send to Washington.


3 posted on 08/03/2006 5:06:43 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: IrishMike
Senator Sessions had a great piece yesterday on the Pence-Hutchison Shamnesty Bill:

Reform the immigration debate

4 posted on 08/03/2006 5:09:51 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: capitalist229

Dept Homeland (in)Security to contract with the 'Minutemen' to take care of that problem.
(sarc:)


5 posted on 08/03/2006 5:11:44 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: conservativecorner

Thanks for the link.


6 posted on 08/03/2006 5:12:36 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: IrishMike
Its the elections. The Shamnesty plan passed by the Senate this spring is going nowhere.

(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em Down Hezbullies.)

7 posted on 08/03/2006 5:14:15 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: IrishMike
What *ssholes. Didn't they realize people were watching?

Like this move will make most want to vote when they look stupid already?
8 posted on 08/03/2006 5:14:48 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: IrishMike

From Polipundit:

National Guard Border Numbers Are A Carnival Shell Game, It’s That Bad


Today is the “deadline” for “troops to the border” and I am extremely sad to write that sending the National Guard to the “Southern Border” is turning out to be an embarrassing failure. As a member of the Reserve Components, I am ashamed at what I am seeing.

President Bush was first failed by the advisors that originally proposed the plan. Now he is being failed on the execution of the plan.

Unfortunately, the National Guard has a long and troubled history on “strength accounting” which must be considered whenever politically sensitive numbers such as these, are reported. For historical background, you may read the original USA Today reporting HERE. Because of the National Guards history, Congress should demand that the General Accounting Office perform an audit of all “strength reporting” pertaining to “Operation Jump Start.”

The bottom line is that we are being treated to a “carnival shell game” and in order to find the proverbial “ball under the shell” we first need to go back to the Presidents Address to the Nation on May 15, 2006 to determine the deployment standard:

“By the end of 2008, we’ll increase the number of Border Patrol officers by an additional 6,000.”

“One way to help during this transition is to use the National Guard. So, in coordination with governors, up to 6,000 Guard members will be deployed to our southern border. The Border Patrol will remain in the lead. The Guard will assist the Border Patrol by operating surveillance systems, analyzing intelligence, installing fences and vehicle barriers, building patrol roads, and providing training.”

Yesterday, Col. Mark Allen, a spokesman for the National Guard Bureau said that “2,000 to 3,000 were on the border, most searching for illegal activity” and the the balance of “6,199 troops were somewhere in the four southwestern border states, with many still in training.”

As a fellow Reserve Commissioned Officer I would ask COL Allen, what is this spread of 2,000 to 3,000? You either know where your soldiers are or you don’t. Where are these missing 1,000 soldiers. Where is this place called “somewhere?” How much time will soldiers have to do their job if “they are still in training” when the deployment is in two to three week cycles?

Second, most Americans, including myself, took the President at his word and “assumed” that 6,000 troops to the southern border meant that 6,000 troops would be reasonably close to the border. We did not expect that they could be hundreds of miles from the border. However, it looks like the President’s Plan was not the National Guards plan:

“The Guard never intended to have 6,000 troops “with their toes on the border,”

Third, we must remember that these troops are sacraficing their two week Annual Training period, when they would normally practice their combat skills as a unit. So, just what are these troops doing instead of training for the War on Terror:

“California has assigned more than 1,200 troops, Guard spokesman Maj. Dan Markert said Monday. About half will be at the border looking for illegal activity; the other half will be in support roles ranging from plumbers to office workers.”

What kind of “bang for our buck” are we getting for these 6,000 soldiers that will be rotating in and out of the border states every two to three weeks?

“The number that we’d identified originally when we started planning this operation that would – the numbers of badges back to the border, if you will, was 581.”

Yep, all these hoops for 581 “badges back to the border.” We are paying the wages and travel costs (every two weeks) of 10 soldiers to put a single “badge back on the border.” More importantly, these soldiers are performing duties that will be of no use to them in preparing to serve on deployment in the Global War on Terror.

I have many friends in the Army National Guard, both in the Border States and at National Guard Bureau. In recent weeks, I have seen the raw numbers that were used to make yesterdays press statements. I was very disturbed when I read that a National Guard Spokesman said,
“Some are assigned to military bases to receive incoming troops.” Those in the National Guard and/or Reserve Components should clearly understand why counting “those soldiers” is extremely troubling.

The National Guard is not doing itself any good nor are they helping President Bush with this “creative accounting.”

If this charade does not stop soon, the eventual Congressional Hearings will be devistating to the Administration, the National Guard and Republican Members of Congress. Yesterday’s “creative accounting” will be considered minor.

-- Oak Leaf


9 posted on 08/03/2006 5:16:32 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: IrishMike
The three senators who voted against yesterday's fence amendment were Democrat Russ D. Feingold of Wisconsin, Republican Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and independent James M. Jeffords of Vermont.

Okay, where's that pic of the RINO doing the elephant?

10 posted on 08/03/2006 5:18:39 AM PDT by upchuck (Me wish for Democrats to die? No, I just want them to develop Tourette's Syndrome. ~American Quilter)
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To: IrishMike
I wonder what we are going to have slipped in along with it?

They do play games, you know. "Fooled you" is their favorite!

11 posted on 08/03/2006 5:21:40 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: IrishMike
" That good news, though, was tempered by a government report that found Department of Homeland Security employees were fooled by counterfeit driver's licenses in nine different tests by undercover investigators at U.S. border crossings. The Government Accountability Office said that hole in security "potentially allows terrorists or others involved in criminal activity to pass freely into the United States from Canada or Mexico."
Democrats seized on the report as evidence Mr. Bush has fallen short on a key measure of homeland security.
"The record is clear: for more than five years, the president has failed to secure our borders and to enforce our immigration laws," said House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, California Democrat, who added that Republicans in Congress have let Mr. Bush get away with underfunding the Border Patrol and have delayed "real immigration reform" by fighting among themselves over whether to do enforcement first or pass a broad bill. "

Great, So Nancy Facelift will have no problems with every state being required to have unforgeable biometric drivers licenses.
They can even use them to vote!
12 posted on 08/03/2006 5:21:58 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Liberals get up every morning and eat a big box of "STUPID" for breakfast)
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To: conservativecorner
This was a valuable article. The Socialist Party (Formerly known as the DemocRAT Party) wants to bring in as many ignorant aliens as possible to vote mindlessly for the Socialist Ticket and load up the welfare programs to justify their expansion.

Educated aliens from Northern Europe or Asian need not apply.

13 posted on 08/03/2006 5:22:49 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (¡Salga de los Estados Unidos de América, invasor!)
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To: IrishMike

Why the cheers?
When has BIG GOVERNMENT SPENDING solved a problem?

Please post here 1 or 2 years or 10 years from now when you can show that this money was wisely and effectively spent to accomplish anything useful.

It is pure symbolism... expensive symbolism.


14 posted on 08/03/2006 5:22:57 AM PDT by spintreebob
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To: conservativecorner
"I think people wanted to get right," said Sen. Jeff Sessions, Alabama Republican.

More like people wanted to get re-elected

15 posted on 08/03/2006 5:25:00 AM PDT by DaiHuy (I have never seen a situation so dismal that a policeman couldn't make it worse)
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To: IrishMike

From NRO. Truly unbelievable:

Homeland Insecurity [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

Also on the AP wire:

Undercover investigators entered the United States using fake documents repeatedly this year _ including some cases in which Homeland Security Department agents didn't ask for identification.
At nine border crossings on the Mexico and Canadian borders, agents "never questioned the authenticity of the counterfeit documents," according to Government Accountability Office testimony to be released Wednesday.

"This vulnerability potentially allows terrorists or others involved in criminal activity to pass freely into the United States from Canada or Mexico with little or no chance of being detected," concluded the GAO, the investigative arm of Congress, in testimony obtained Tuesday by The Associated Press.


16 posted on 08/03/2006 5:25:29 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: IrishMike

bump for later


17 posted on 08/03/2006 5:25:44 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Time to bring back tar and feathering.)
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To: capitalist229
Some of it's pretty nasty vertical rock face ~ I doubt anyone would stop you if you wished to build a fence there as a kind of "feasibility study".

But there's much more than 2000 miles of border. For example there's 3,145 miles of border with a neighboring "hostile state" to the North (or East, depending on how you are looking at the thing).

The evil French have a couple of islands in the St. Lawrence estuary (Miquilon and St. Pierre) aimed like a dagger at the industrial heart of the Midwest.

We could go on and on with this.

18 posted on 08/03/2006 5:26:09 AM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: muawiyah
ED fro Fox & FRiend jut reported that 60 people who voted not to fund this project changed their minds after going back home and talking with their constituents.
19 posted on 08/03/2006 5:28:04 AM PDT by mware
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To: conservativecorner

Excellent link. Sessions makes some fantastic points in his article.


20 posted on 08/03/2006 5:31:37 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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