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CA: The silliest season: Just call it summer
Los Angeles Daily News ^ | 08/02/2006 | TAD CRONN

Posted on 08/02/2006 12:50:53 PM PDT by calcowgirl

SURE sign that it's silly season: The normally sensible Tony Blair and the normally reasonable Governator are teaming up to defeat global warming.

OK, I know it's been hot lately, but that doesn't mean the globe is in any danger of burning to a cinder. And the notion of Blair and Arnold Schwarzenegger grappling the global-warming dragon into submission by charging for carbon is just absurd.

Anybody else remember when the hot part of the year was just called summer? And sometimes summer was cooler than "normal" and sometimes it was hotter than "normal."

Until very recently, there was none of this running the home air conditioner 24 hours a day until all the neighborhood transformers blew out. But nowadays, people expect a constant 75 degrees in their homes, and when they don't get it, it's global warming.

There are three major contentions of global-warming theory, each of which is dubious: One, the globe's average temperature is rising; two, the temperature increase is because of human activity; and three, any global temperature increase will be a major disaster.

First problem is that until very recently, we have not had satellites that could even reasonably attempt to take a "global temperature," and it's debatable whether current approaches are accurate. To get a truly accurate picture, you would have to be able to capture temperatures over the entire globe's surface, and at all altitudes in the atmosphere simultaneously or at least within a small time frame. Then, you would have to be able to do that over an extended period - preferably years. Then you could possibly establish a trend.

Current techniques rely on samplings taken from select areas at particular times. Yet for all the anecdotal evidence that this or that glacier is shrinking, there are other glaciers that are growing. For every study showing Greenland is greening, there's a study showing polar temperatures have decreased in recent years. Even if we could establish a global average, we don't have that information for past years, so we don't have a basis other than anecdotal evidence for saying temperatures were lower in previous years.

There is also no evidence that human activity can affect the global climate. Scientists tell us that the Earth has warmed and cooled in past centuries even before the Industrial Revolution, so blaming SUVs is just politicking by people who can't stand the thought of successful car manufacturers.

But what if global warming is true? What if the ice caps melt? You may have seen graphics showing that the entire world map would look like the Hawaiian islands, but the reality is if all the ice caps and glaciers melted, it would add up to a rise in ocean level of at most a couple of feet.

So when the Governator and Tony Blair, or any other cabal of politicians, start making plans to regulate greenhouse gases, what does it really mean? That they're currying votes. Arnold is eager to wave his environmental credentials in the race against Phil Angelides, as is obvious from recent campaign commercials.

It is to be hoped that this plan of Arnold's is only an empty campaign promise. Any real attempt to regulate greenhouse gases would only raise the price of gasoline further and drag down the state's economy. Efforts to stop global warming always seem designed to do more damage than global warming ever could.

Tad Cronn is a writer and speaker from West Hills. His Web site is www.the-free-lance.com.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: blair; blairinca; capandtrade; climatechange; globalwarming; greenhousegases; schwarzenegger; sillyseason; summer
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1 posted on 08/02/2006 12:50:54 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
There are three major contentions of global-warming theory, each of which is dubious: One, the globe's average temperature is rising; two, the temperature increase is because of human activity; and three, any global temperature increase will be a major disaster.
2 posted on 08/02/2006 12:51:23 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

SUN: "What about me? Doesn't anyone respect my power?"

3 posted on 08/02/2006 12:53:18 PM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: calcowgirl
It is to be hoped that this plan of Arnold's is only an empty campaign promise. Any real attempt to regulate greenhouse gases would only raise the price of gasoline further and drag down the state's economy.

And do NOTHING to stop supposed global warming. As if one state, a small piece of real estate out of the entire land mass of the earth can do anything to reverse solar output and surface temperature. Even if you believe global warming in man-made, to pretend one state's CO2 output will change the earth's temperature is the height of hubris. Spare me.

I'm seriously thinking of voting Third Party over Arnold's stand on this and I NEVER consider voting Third Party, especially knowing how much worse the Dems. will be especially a putz like Angelides. Anyone who knows me on FR or anyone who wants can look back through my posts and see I've been a staunch defender of Arnold and will almost always support GOP candidates no matter how moderate or even in some cases liberal (an exception is Lincoln Chafee and most recently Arnold Specter).

But this is a hot button issue with me and I don't like Arnold jumping on this populist, Hollywood left bulls*&t bandwagon nor his smart ass remarks he made just to curry favor with Tony Blair. I'm not about to just take seeing our state's economy trashed because of the L.A. West Side's infatuation with Al Gore and his vomitous movie.

We'll see what I do in November. As thing's stand now, I'm leaning towards Schwarzenegger needing to earn back my vote.

4 posted on 08/02/2006 1:00:01 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting out of anger in November is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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To: frogjerk

He should just super-nova! That'll show 'em who's boss!


5 posted on 08/02/2006 1:02:07 PM PDT by MarkeyD (The patriotism of the New York Times = The humanity of an Islamic terrorist.)
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To: calcowgirl

I seems to me that every year, here in the midwest for a few days to a week, the temperature goes above 100.

It's called Summer....


6 posted on 08/02/2006 1:17:50 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Thank you again Jimmy Carter.)
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To: MikeA

Had it been Gray Davis doing and saying the same things about Global Warming and more regulation, I believe Republicans would be united in opposition. The absence of outrage will be our undoing, imo.


7 posted on 08/02/2006 1:18:53 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Have to give Algore some credit. He or whoever was behind his movie timed it perfectly to get people all whipped up over nothing.


8 posted on 08/02/2006 1:20:43 PM PDT by Rane _H
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To: calcowgirl

I think a lot of us are just hoping it's little more than election rhetoric to add weight to Arnold's claim Angelides is the weak on the environment candidate. Still, I don't like it. If he plans to do this to the California economy there will be an outflow from this state that will rival the great migrations throughout world history. We are over-taxed, over-regulated and over gas-priced to death. NO MORE!


9 posted on 08/02/2006 1:24:28 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting out of anger in November is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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To: MikeA; Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; ElkGroveDan; NormsRevenge
Unfortunately, I don't think it's rhetoric. His original environmental plan was written by RFK, jr. and he has been successful in implementing much of it, starting with the Sierra Nevada Conservancy that even Gray Davis vetoed. He continues to have a bunch of greenies surrounding him as advisors.

Carry_Okie did a comprehensive critique of that plan before the Recall election. Every time I read the plan I find new alarming details.

An Analysis of Arnold Schwarzenegger's Environmental Policy
Arnold Schwarzenegger's Website / Vanity | Sept. 23, 2003 | Mark Edward Vande Pol, aka, Carry_Okie
Posted on 09/23/2003 1:59:55 PM PDT by Carry_Okie

10 posted on 08/02/2006 1:35:36 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Rane _H

It is not by coincidence. Propaganda campaigns are traditionally well coordinated.


11 posted on 08/02/2006 1:36:59 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: MikeA
I'm seriously thinking of voting Third Party over Arnold's stand on this and I NEVER consider voting Third Party,

Your going to vote for a "Green" or "Socialist" Party???

12 posted on 08/02/2006 1:42:10 PM PDT by Bommer
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To: calcowgirl

Count on it. There's a tax increase (or several) lurking in all this global warming business somewhere.


13 posted on 08/02/2006 1:44:03 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (WARNING: Alcohol may cause you to think you are whispering when you are definitely not.)
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To: Bommer

I assume the Libertarians will be running someone. I'm sorry, but I'm just not the type of person to ever vote 3rd party, but economics are an important issue to me and if Arnold plans on spending the next 4 yrs. trashing the economy of this state with some environmentalist wet dream, I just can't hold the door for him as he goes out to do so.

I'm still waiting to see if he clarifies this and I'm just hoping it's election year rhetoric. I do realize you can't run and win as a true blue conservative in this state. But he seems hell bent on doing this emissions crap having gotten a big ego boost from Blair. So we'll see.


14 posted on 08/02/2006 1:50:27 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting out of anger in November is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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To: calcowgirl
So when the Governator and Tony Blair ... start making plans to regulate greenhouse gases... they're currying votes.
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It is to be hoped that this plan of Arnold's is only an empty campaign promise. Any real attempt to regulate greenhouse gases would only raise the price of gasoline further and drag down the state's economy.

As pointed out numerous times on past threads, the Governor can't agree to anything substantive with the Prime Minister.
According to the US Constitution, Article I, Section 10:

No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation; grant letters of marque and reprisal; coin money; emit bills of credit; make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts; pass any bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law impairing the obligation of contracts, or grant any title of nobility.

No state shall, without the consent of the Congress, lay any imposts or duties on imports or exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection laws: and the net produce of all duties and imposts, laid by any state on imports or exports, shall be for the use of the treasury of the United States; and all such laws shall be subject to the revision and control of the Congress.

No state shall, without the consent of Congress, lay any duty of tonnage, keep troops, or ships of war in time of peace, enter into any agreement or compact with another state, or with a foreign power, or engage in war, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent danger as will not admit of delay.

15 posted on 08/02/2006 2:19:02 PM PDT by heleny
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To: heleny; calcowgirl
heleny, this turkey is so head-strong and stuck on himself that no law or constitutional provision will mean anything to him any more than it would to his opponent!!!

WASS=We Are So Screwed!!!

16 posted on 08/02/2006 2:49:40 PM PDT by SierraWasp (How are you going to win their hearts and minds if they don't have any? (Rush Limbaugh))
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To: SierraWasp
I think you're right. I think they're going to find some way to implement regulations and then link California up to the EU carbon trading market. The new "Clinton Foundation" is moving forward to "help" the scheme.

Bill Clinton, global mayors form alliance on climate change

Former President Clinton and big-city mayors from around the globe announced an initiative Tuesday to combat climate change and increase energy efficiency in everything from street lights to building materials.

The partnership brings together Clinton and the resources of his presidential foundation with the Large Cities Climate Leadership Group - an alliance of Rome, London, Mexico City, Los Angeles and other cities that have pledged to cut greenhouse gas emissions.

The aim is to pool technology and resources to slash the pollutants that contribute to global warming while promoting clean-burning fuels and energy conservation.

"This is a very, very serious problem, but also a phenomenal opportunity," Clinton said at the University of California, Los Angeles, where he signed the pact while flanked by mayors of Los Angeles, San Francisco and London, as well as British Prime Minister Tony Blair.

(snip)

"Unlike the United States, the United Kingdom has found a source of new jobs ... in a commitment to a clean, independent energy future. Thank you, prime minister, for setting an example that all Americans should be able to follow," Clinton said.

The pact is similar to one signed Monday by California and Britain, which will share information and technology to cut pollutants linked to climate change.

"Our aim is simple - to change the world," said London Mayor Ken Livingstone, who chairs the city group.

(snip)

17 posted on 08/02/2006 3:21:50 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl; Carry_Okie; ElkGroveDan; dalereed; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; forester; Amerigomag; ...

Have any of you guys and gals seen THIS??? (what the calcowgirl posted?)


18 posted on 08/02/2006 8:57:00 PM PDT by SierraWasp (How are you going to win their hearts and minds if they don't have any? (Rush Limbaugh))
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To: SierraWasp
We can't post excerpts from this source (independent.co.uk), but this is pretty interesting stuff and gives some idea of where they are heading.
The Big Question: What is carbon trading, and can it save the world from global warming?
By Philip Thornton, Economics Correspondent
Published: 02 August 2006

19 posted on 08/02/2006 9:04:23 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

" There are three major contentions of global-warming theory, each of which is dubious: One, the globe's average temperature is rising; two, the temperature increase is because of human activity; and three, any global temperature increase will be a major disaster."



So your point ? What is it that you think that Arnold has committed us to ?


20 posted on 08/02/2006 9:28:38 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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