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To: Ichneumon; hellbender
Re 229: "why are the believers so interested in the non-existence of God if they believe in God"?

This also puzzles me. If believers are content with their souls, why not leave mine alone?

I suspect that believers are very insecure, because they know in their hearts that Noah's Flood never happened; because they know that evolution is firmly based on real science from many branches.

ID is merely an attempt to prove the existence of a certain god--the god of Leviticus morality. IDists have never once contributed a single thing to medicine or technology.

IDists remain ignorant not only of biology, geology, etc., but hellbender and the like continue to discount the pixie theory.

The pixie thoery does not rely on any text from 2000 years ago, but we make it up as we go along. This is more productive, and saves pixies from silly arguments against them.

As a believer, pixies and rain gods get along quite well.

243 posted on 08/01/2006 10:01:29 PM PDT by thomaswest (One man's 'truth" is another man's heresy)
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To: thomaswest

I hardly know where to begin with your post--so many fallacies and distortions; so little time.

"ID is merely an attempt to prove the existence of a certain god--the god of Leviticus morality"

Please provide documentation that ID is intended to prove the existence of the God, Yahweh of Leviticus. If someone wanted to prove that, wouldn't he at least describe that God? ID advocates have done nothing of the kind.

Of course, I've asked you to document other fallacious statements you've made, such as that the Constitution mentions atheists and pagans. You never did, because you can't.

So you go back to "pixie" humor. Ha....ha...ha. (Forced simulation of laughter)


249 posted on 08/01/2006 10:25:31 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: thomaswest

I suspect that believers are very insecure, because they know in their hearts that Noah's Flood never happened;
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Insecurity is common among humans of all stripes. Actually there may have been a catastrophic flood which formed the basis of the legend of Gilgamesh and the Noah story. On the other hand the spectacle of animals entering a huge wooden vessel two by two, with or without the Irish Rovers unicorns, leaves me somewhat sceptical. I spent about nine months on an aircraft carrier and I never could figure out how to fit all that on board, let alone how to put them all on a much smaller wooden vessel. The fact that I grew up on a farm didn't make the problem seem any easier.
By the way, I am certainly no Atheist, as I say in another post I consider trying to prove or disprove the existence of God to be futile. I am however, constantly amazed at the willingness of some "Christians" to see almost the entirety of the human race cast into eternal torment. I cannot conceive of a God so merciless, I come from a background that would be considered extreme poverty today and grew up in a Southern Baptist church of which I am still an official member but I cannot subscribe to many of the beliefs officially endorsed by the church. I can say from experience that trying to reason with the average "true believer" is an exercise in futility.


264 posted on 08/02/2006 5:22:01 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anybody still believe this is a free country?)
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