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To: hellbender
Re 150: The only times someone was brought to Jesus and described as deserving death, he forgave them and sent them on their way.

[Take that, you "blashpher.}

Strange post. Are you denying the Old Testament? There are many accounts where "God" said all the children deserved death and urged on the Israelites to rape girls.

In the myth of Noah's Flood, unborn babies were killed; newborns were drowned; toddlers and 4-yr-olds were killed. And you claim this is a tale that teaches 'morality'. Surely you are not serious.

As to who is a blasphemer or heretic, Martin Luther, originator of Protestantism, was called both. Luther won out, because there are now 189 churches based on his foundation. They disagree amongst themselves, of course. There seems to be lots of money in one-way tickets to an imaginary heaven.

164 posted on 08/01/2006 6:21:53 PM PDT by thomaswest (I just believe in one fewer god than you do.)
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To: thomaswest

"Strange post. Are you denying the Old Testament?"

Much of the OT is superceded by the New Testament, at least for Christians.

"And you claim this is a tale [Noah's flood] that teaches 'morality'.

I never said any such thing.

And just where do you get your concept of "morality" which tells you that part of the Bible is "immoral?" Did you get a special revelation on that? Did you conjure it up in some purely logical, utilitarian, objective way? If so, tell us exactly how you did that. Maybe we should get you to come up with a set of moral commandments, since you don't have to rely on "myths" to get yours.


168 posted on 08/01/2006 6:32:56 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: thomaswest

"As to who is a blasphemer or heretic, Martin Luther, originator of Protestantism, was called both. Luther won out, because there are now 189 churches based on his foundation. They disagree amongst themselves, of course. There seems to be lots of money in one-way tickets to an imaginary heaven."

And who did Luther "win out" over, and in what way? Of his contemporary opponents, both the Catholics and Calvinists are still around. And what documentation do you have that there are 192 distinct Lutheran churches? Can you tell us what the differences between them are, and how you know they are distinct?

As for the slur about money in religion--there are a lot easier ways to make money than being a Christian minister, let alone a missionary in the Third World, the operator of a soup kitchen, a Salvation Army worker, etc. Many of them live in near poverty, esp. the Catholic "religious," like nuns. In fact, they take vows of poverty. Living among lepers in Calcutta, the way Mother Theresa did, is not exactly what most materialists dream about. Of course, she found it a joy anyway.


178 posted on 08/01/2006 6:42:31 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: thomaswest
There are many accounts where "God" said all the children deserved death and urged on the Israelites to rape girls. In the myth of Noah's Flood, unborn babies were killed; newborns were drowned; toddlers and 4-yr-olds were killed.

Can you please tell me where you found that? What books, chapters and verses? Or are you just talking out of your ass? If it's the latter, disregard my question.
211 posted on 08/01/2006 8:04:42 PM PDT by Not just another dumb blonde
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