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An Open Letter to Pat Buchanan
Chronwatch ^ | July 31, 2006 | Burt Prelutsky

Posted on 08/01/2006 11:22:56 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: Wolfstar

Please direct me to where I said Catholics are not Christian?

When you realize I did no such thing, please return to this post to read further.

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I don't ascribe to the belief that because someone belongs to a Church that they are Christian. Kerry is supposedly a Christian. So is Ted Kennedy. They are techically Catholics, correct?

Evangelical, protestant, Catholic...whatever. Simply marking attendance in church doesn't make one a Christian. It may qualify you for a gold star on the attendance sheet, but that's about it.

I don't generally go about saying that person is a Christian, and that person is not. But in the case of the Clinton's, Kerry, Teddy and yes, Pat Buchanon, I've made an exception. I don't believe any of them are Christians..no matter what church they claim affiliation with. If I'm wrong, I'm sure God will take it up with me.

Furthermore, I didn't even know Pat was a member of the Catholic Church. So how you made the leap to anti-catholism from a simple statement rejecting his spiritual conversion to Christianity I'll never know.


41 posted on 08/01/2006 12:59:49 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: Mamzelle
The neo punditry manage the "racist" card much better than they manage the "chickenhawk" accusations they also have to deal with.

This is could have come out of the mouth of Frank Lautenberg, Howard Dean, John Kerry, or John Murtha.

IOW, it's the mantra of Democrats who think only those who have served have any right to occupy a position that sends other men into battle.

And, of course, your buddy Buchanan (who never served due to a boil on his butt) points out constantly that his pantheon of Jewish neo-cons weren't in the service, either.

42 posted on 08/01/2006 1:00:25 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: sinkspur
>>>>>>I invite you to find some examples where he mentions neo-cons that he criticizes any gentiles at all, or that the number of gentiles (who are more numerous in the movement and in government) he mentions out number the Jews he mentions.

This is his cover article for the American Conservative on the eve of the Iraq War: http://www.amconmag.com/2003/03_24_03/cover.html

In it, you will find a succinct definition of neoconservatism, and a listing of Jeane Kirkpatrick, Bill Bennett, Michael Novak, and James Q. Wilson as prominent neocons, and a definition of neocon journals as including National Review and the Wall Street Journal editorial page, neither of which are predominantly Jewish.

You will also find criticism of the foreign policy positions of Bill Bennett, Tom Donnelly, the Wall Street Journal editorial page, and Laurent Murawiec, a former La Rouchie turned neocon.

Buchanan defines neoconservatism as an ideological movement, not an ethnicity.

43 posted on 08/01/2006 1:02:32 PM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: sinkspur

You again, padre?


44 posted on 08/01/2006 1:02:41 PM PDT by Mamzelle (in vino, veritas)
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To: no dems
Pat is like Barry Goldwater; their minds turn to mush with age.

Pat's mind turned to mush when he stayed in the Nixon administration after Nixon abandonned any pretense at being a conservative

Huge anti Stalin Buchanan had NO PROBLEM going to China with Nixon and sucking up to those butchers _Look what that resulted in with China a miltary giant today

Then he has the gall to run against Bush's daddy because he abandonned the GOP cause. Nixon was ten times worse
45 posted on 08/01/2006 1:05:02 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: sinkspur
Buchanan (who never served due to a boil on his butt)

Nope Rush was the boil on his butt 4F

Buchanan was rheumatodal Arthritis
46 posted on 08/01/2006 1:07:08 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Thorin
I hope Bennett really doesn't belong on that list, but you might also add Biden to it.

It is interesting how the term "neo-con" is spun. Kristol calls himself a neoconservative, and has used the word as often as he has "hegemony", if that's possible. I recommend a long and depressing dogpile.com search using the two words, "Balkan" and "neoconservative." You'll find a lot of Kristol's academic papers: the stuff he got grants to write.

So Kristol can write about neoconservatism, but you're not allowed to say the word "neoconservative" on pain of being called an antisemite. And there are types anxious to remind you of your speech restrictions.

47 posted on 08/01/2006 1:07:49 PM PDT by Mamzelle (in vino, veritas)
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To: uncbob

LOL--


48 posted on 08/01/2006 1:08:22 PM PDT by Mamzelle (in vino, veritas)
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To: The_Republican
I don't understand why AIPAC or any other powerful Jewish organization can't shut Pat Buchanan up.

When Buchannan mentions the existence of "powerful Jewish organizations", he's smeared as an anti-semite. It's a funny old world, isn't it?

49 posted on 08/01/2006 1:09:12 PM PDT by Romulus (Quomodo sedet sola civitas plena populo.)
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To: Mamzelle
>>>>I hope Bennett really doesn't belong on that list, but you might also add Biden to it.

I'm afraid he does.

>>>>>>So Kristol can write about neoconservatism, but you're not allowed to say the word "neoconservative" on pain of being called an antisemite. And there are types anxious to remind you of your speech restrictions.

You are exactly right!

And thanks for the reminder about the neocons' shameful record on the Balkans. (Buchanan was foursquare against the US war on Serbia, as you probably recall).

50 posted on 08/01/2006 1:10:43 PM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: SJackson

Go Pat Go, Go as far away as possible.


51 posted on 08/01/2006 1:10:55 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.)
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To: Thorin
Buchanan defines neoconservatism as an ideological movement, not an ethnicity.

That's why he spends the first half of the article quoting nothing but Jewish pundits.

52 posted on 08/01/2006 1:12:13 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: sinkspur
"Neo-con" is code word for "Jews." Rush says it is, Medved says it is, and many others say it is.

Including the editors of Commentary (published by the American Jewish Committee) whose masthead proclaims them "the home of neo-conservatism".

53 posted on 08/01/2006 1:17:54 PM PDT by Romulus (Quomodo sedet sola civitas plena populo.)
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To: Thorin
It's generally blamed on Clinton--but can you imagine Clinton hurrying to any fight?

Biden, Albright, McCain--all needed the "cover" provided by the "intellectual" wing of the neocons in order to muscle Willie Jeff into the fight. I guess I'll find Bennett in there, too? Disappointing.

If you look over the whole ghastly business (and now having the Albanian Muslims to deal with, much more powerful than before)--it's like we entered that conflict with the general purpose of showing the Muslims how nice we could be to them.

Now we get the spectacle of 800-yr-old Eastern Orthodox churches being burned, one by one, until there will be none left in the Balkans.

But no one ever holds the neos accountable...They call me paleo here at times, I don't much care, but I'm really for a post-neo conservatism.

As for Pat, he only has the currency they give him--he'd be a complete nobody without his angry opposition. I regard him as an irrelevancy. I want new, young, non-neo pundits who write with dash and vigor.

I also find it very telling how much the neos hate Ann Coulter.

54 posted on 08/01/2006 1:20:22 PM PDT by Mamzelle (in vino, veritas)
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To: Romulus

Write them and ask them. Perhaps they do.


55 posted on 08/01/2006 1:20:38 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: sinkspur
>>>>>>That's why he spends the first half of the article quoting nothing but Jewish pundits.

Yes, including Mickey Kaus of Slate, who agrees with Buchanan and disagrees with the other pundits (all of whom are quoted as complaining that criticism of them equates to anti-Semitism, which is a convenient shield for a pundit to have, you must admit).

And Buchanan goes on to criticize all the gentiles I mention, plus writes that America has a moral obligation to Israel. But you wouldn't want to worry about anything that complicates the "Buchanan hates all Jews" thesis, not would you?

56 posted on 08/01/2006 1:29:58 PM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: Mamzelle
>>>>> I want new, young, non-neo pundits who write with dash and vigor.

So do I. Unfortunately, the neos are very successful in freezing out the opposition on the right. Which is why National Review is largely indistinguashable from the Weekly Standard in its editorial positions.

57 posted on 08/01/2006 1:31:46 PM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: Romulus
>>>>>When Buchannan mentions the existence of "powerful Jewish organizations", he's smeared as an anti-semite. It's a funny old world, isn't it?

Excellent observation.

58 posted on 08/01/2006 1:33:26 PM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: Thorin

There is the Human Events, and David Horowitz, while passionately pro-Israel, is not so insular in his publication, frontpagemag.com. For all that he agrees with neos much of the time, he really does not seem to be one. The neos certainly don't seem to support David H very much at all!!


59 posted on 08/01/2006 1:35:12 PM PDT by Mamzelle (in vino, veritas)
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To: Thorin

David Frum is nominally pro-choice--imagine that in Bill Buckley's magazine!


60 posted on 08/01/2006 1:36:10 PM PDT by Mamzelle (in vino, veritas)
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