New Finding Challenges Tour Champ’s Claim (Landis - Tour De France)

NY Times ^ | 8-1-06 | Juliet Macur

[dfwgator]

Not good.

[JimRed]

Let me guess...the samples were evaluated by a FRENCH medical team, right???

[jdm]

lol

[johnny7]

Ruh Roh...

[Lx]

1) Why would someone do doping knowing that he would be tested, it doesn't male sense.

2) I don't trust France to treat an American winner of their race fairly.

3) If he was doping, strip him of his title.

[Hildy]

That's why this story makes no sense..THEY KNOW they'll be tested...THEY KNOW Americans are under more scrutiny. I'm leary of this...but...who knows?

[Lx]

Exactly.
This kind of reminds me of the leak that one of Lance Armstrongs 'b' samples tested positive right before last year's TDF.

[thoughtomator]

Simple cultural miscommunication here. See, outside of France, men naturally produce testosterone.

[krewjay]

Only the French would think it suspicious to have testosterone in the male body.

[jdm]

"1) Why would someone do doping knowing that he would be tested, it doesn't male sense."

I'll don my flame suit: I've only seen him interviewed once....and he didn't seem all too bright.

[soccer_maniac]

See, outside of France, men naturally produce testosterone.

LOL! That's funny! Post of the day!

[WL-law]

Someone commented that testosterone would not really produce an 'overnight' performance enhancing response. Taking testosterone or steroids would help build up muscle mass over the long term, but the effect would show up in months, not hours. There are other drugs that have an immediate affect, but they work entirely differntly in the body.

So why would Landis take testosterone after a poor performance in order to boost his performance trhe following day? It makes no sense. He wouldn't get a benefit in performance.

Something does not make sense here.

[cvq3842]

A local sports commentator speculated that someone could have given him something without his knowledge, to sabatoge him. He mentioned the people handing cups of water out to marathon runners in NY.

But it seems highly improbable that an athlete like this would just injest something from anyone, especially knowing he'd be tested.

I dunno. whatever happened, we'll find out (I hope).

[Steve_Seattle]

"I'll don my flame suit: I've only seen him interviewed once....and he didn't seem all too bright."

Landis is not particularly articulate, but I don't think he's stupid. For one thing, he's pretty new to the spotlight and isn't accustomed to doing a lot of interviews.

[untrained skeptic]

Tests performed on the cyclist Floyd Landis’s initial urine sample showed that some of the testosterone in his body had come from an external source and was not produced by his system, according to a person at the International Cycling Union with knowledge of the results.

More leaked information rather than officially released information.

The International Cycling Union needs to start firing people.

The tests need to be verified. The accused needs the opportunity to contest those results. Only after the tests have been verified should such allegations be made public.

If the tests show that he is guilty of doping, he deserves what he gets, however they was this has been handled by the International Cycling Union shows the organization itself has serious issues that need addressed.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

As an analytical chemist with some expertise in GC/MS, there are a LOT of things that can go wrong, especially in a portable lab like they are probably working out of.

Plus, under these types of circumstances, you're a hero if you find something, even if it isn't there (see Joyce Gilchrist).

[frogjerk]

Exactly. This kind of reminds me of the leak that one of Lance Armstrongs 'b' samples tested positive right before last year's TDF.

--rimshot--

[BillM]

The question is:

Testosterone is a unique chemical compound. God only made one. What is synthetic testosterone????

[milwguy]

also the level would not drop to normal the day after. when these guys dope the level would not be normal one day, abnormal the next, and normal the day after. something does not smell right in this situation.