[Just another Joe]

I have been arguing that cigarette smoke is bad. Period.

That is my point. Now you are deflecting.

So you haven't been on point from the very beginning.

I have not challenged your point that first hand smoking is not good for a person. Not once.

MY point is that the SG did something he shouldn't have and that the antismoker organizations will lie, cheat, and steal to drive their pitiful agenda home and ban smoking everywhere for no other reason than they don't like the smell of tobacco smoke.

[Gabz]

MY point is that the SG did something he shouldn't have and that the antismoker organizations will lie, cheat, and steal to drive their pitiful agenda home and ban smoking everywhere for no other reason than they don't like the smell of tobacco smoke.

Have you been reading Dr. Siegal's blog? Here is a man who has been a mover and shaker of the tobacco control movement for over 20 years and even he has now realized that most of these organizations are more interested in headlines than health.

IN MY VIEW: Extremism Has Taken Over the Tobacco Control Movement

Unlike Stan Glantz, Dr. Siegal is actually an M.D., not just a mechanic with a PhD.