That's hardly possible, isn't it? Besides, it doesn't have anything to do with Islam, it just shows that secular states have always been a result of evolution.
I'm just fed up with people here underlining the perversion of Islam as a whole from the start when obviously the Christian church needed centuries to overcome most of their flaws. Using religious reasons as an excuse to start military campaigns has been fairly common in history. I admit that radical Islamism shows the Muslim world missed out on some very important developments, and is dangerously uncivilised in these points now. But by demonizing the religion as a whole we come to a point where the logical result can only be conversion or genocide.
But what we need to do is to combat the radical elements while finding a modus operandi with and generally support the moderate elements. This hate talk is just contraproductive in my eyes.
this from a person who makes blanket statements about Christianity as a whole without showing evidence that he has any clear understanding of its history. As I pointed out earlier, if the Spanish had a proclivity for tyrannical methods in their religion, they learned it from the Muslims and it was Christianity that gave them the ability to keep it from completely poisoning their existence.
If the Muslims quell at the idea that some of their members are giving the rest of them a bad name, then why aren't they folding in on themselves to put a stop to it? You can darn well expect Christians to do that. One Christian's name was Martin Luther, a man you should be familiar with if you are German.
As a Christian, I dont wish to kill Muslims. I wish to see them coverted...just as they say they want to convert me. The difference...the CHRISTIAN and holy difference between me and them is that I won't hold a sword over their neck. I will consider their search for Truth as a search like my own. Nor have Christians throughout history made it a general practice to do so...unlike the pedophile moon demon the muslims uphold as their ideal right from the very beginning. As I said earlier, you evidence a very very poor understanding of western civilization, as well as the history of the Americas.
Neo-Ottomanism, this is precisely what's happening in Europe, If you want to be a dhimmi, go right ahead, just put your lips between your arse cheeks and kiss it good bye.