Redrawing the College Map ( soaring tuition )

Los Angeles bureau chief of The New York Times. ^ | July 30, 2006 | Jennifer Steinhauer

[george76]

New Jersey is the perennial loser in the student migration wars: more of its residents leave the state to go to college than anywhere else in the country.

On the other end of the spectrum, so many students have decided that sunshine, mosquitoes and the Marlins are the essential elements of the college experience that Florida is the state with the highest “net migration” (the number who enter minus the number who leave).

Source: Interstate Commission for Higher Education; number of students in 2005 and 2015 are projections based on 2001-2 data...

The swelling population of 18-year-olds — members of the demographic behemoth known as the echo boom, offspring of the baby boomers — is expected to peak in 2009, when the largest group of high school seniors in the nation’s history, 3.2 million, are to graduate.

While a slow descent is projected to follow, the growing value of a college degree means record high enrollments every year until 2015, according to a June report from the United States Department of Education.

College-age populations of the Midwest and Northeast are shrinking, while those in the South and West are rising. States with large immigrant populations, like Florida and Arizona, are expected to see the most growth in the college-age pipeline.

[XRdsRev]

"After having driven through New Jersey twice this weekend, north-to-south and south-to-north (and paying dearly in tolls for that privilege.... just where does all that money go I wonder?), I don't know why anyone stays there."

Because, despite all the New Jersey jokes (which I guess are hilarious if your IQ is in the double digits), NJ is a great place to live in many respects.

It has some very bad defects (read Newark, Camden, the state government etc.) but overall, it is a beautiful state with generally nice people, fantastic history, a very good business economy, with lots of things to do, see and experience.

If you are bored in New Jersey, you must be dead (and therefore voting democrat)

[PAR35]

I remember a generation ago students from Jersey who found out of state tuition in the south lower than in-state tuition at home.

[sportutegrl]

From the Governor's mansion on down; the most corrupt tax-rigged state in the union.

in the union's back pocket.

[raybbr]

... has managed to retain a great deal of its colonial character...

Huh???????

[Fiji Hill]

Illinois and Indiana must have beaches I've missed.

Michigan City, Ind. has a nice beach.

[raybbr]

...when the largest group of high school seniors in the nation’s history, 3.2 million, are to graduate.

32 million times an average $10k/year=32 billion dollars. It's all about money.

[sportutegrl]

I'm just wondering if it could be partly due to the wacko leftist professors that are more prevalent in the Northeast than in usually more conservative Southern colleges. Maybe students are reading David Horowitz and realizing that they don't want to be brainwashed.

[raybbr]

You should go to Indiana Dunes State park. Lots of fun.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Not sure what you've been drinking, but I do like parts of the Jersey shore....

but your property taxes and other taxes are ridiculous. Your government is abysmal. Atlantic city is a failure just blocks off the strip - and dangerous.

I (unfortunately) must also take exception to your characterizing Philly as one of the nations greatest cities. It too has a corrupt government and corrupted voting.

Please share the name of your beverage of choice. America needs it.

[Fiji Hill]

I think Individual Rights in NJ had something like this in mind:

Sandy Hook Lighthouse, Built 1764

[george76]

You are correct.

Many students do not want to have to suffer with bad professors ranting about their personal politics.

Many students realize that they will need to get a real job in the real world soon. Thus they need a degree with an economic value.

[Mr. Jeeves]

California would be orange if they weren't keeping the in-state tuition slots open for illegals. ;)

[MattinNJ]

Most of the State is beautiful. You really don't get a sense of it from the Turnpike or the Parkway. That being said, a lot of us are trapped here by high paying jobs. My wife and I both have nice jobs-the problem is that it keeps getting eaten up by sprialling property taxes, car insurance, etc...The only way to escape is to build up enough equity in your home and then moving someplace nice and affordable like Tennessee.

[durasell]

Wow, a little sensitive about Jersey.

Heres a New Jersey song!

Prominent Bar in Secaucus

In a prominent bar in Secaucus one day
Rose a lady in skunk with a top-heavy sway
Raised a knobby red finger - all turned from their beer -
While with eyes bright as snowcrust she sang high and clear

Now who of you'd think from an eyeload of me
That I once was a lady as proud as can be?
Oh I'd never sit down by a tumble-down drunk
If it wasn't, my dears, for the high cost of junk.

All the gents used to swear that the white of my calf
Beat the down of a swan by a length and a half
In the kerchief of linen I caught to my nose
Ah, there never fell snot, but a little gold rose.

I had seven gold teeth and a toothpick of gold
My Virginia cheroot with a leaf it was rolled
And I'd light it each time with a thousand in cash
Why the bums used to fight if I flicked them an ash

Once the toast of the Biltmore, the belle of the Taft
I would drink bottle beer at the Drake, never draft
And dine at the Astor on Salisbury Steak
With a clean table cloth for each bite I would take

In a car like the roxy, I'd roll to the track
A steel-guitar trio, a bar in the back
And the wheels made no noise, they turned ever so fast
Still it took you ten minutes to see me go past

When the horses bowed down to me that I might choose
I bet on them all for I hated to lose
Now I'm saddle each night for my butter and eggs
And the broken threads race down the backs of my legs

Let you hold in mind girls that your beauty must pass
Like a lovely white clover that rusts with its grass
Keep your bottoms off bar stools and marry your young
Or be left - an old barrel with many a bung

For when time takes you out for a spin in his car
You'll be hard-pressed to stop him from going too far
And be left by the roadside, for all your good deeds
Two toadstools for tits and a face full of weeds

All the house raised a cheer, but the man at the bar
Made a phone call and up pulled a red patrol car
And she blew us a kiss as the copped her away
From that prominent bar in Secaucus NJ

Midi file here

http://sniff.numachi.com/pages/tiBARSECAU;ttVILDINAH.html

[JoeGar]

New Jersey is the perennial loser in the student migration wars: more of its residents leave the state to go to college than anywhere else in the country.

I think they all go to Duke.

[AD from SpringBay]

Do these statistics include foreign students?

[Richard Kimball]

State colleges also receive money from the state, so their income is roughly 2X tuition. Schools like Harvard have such large endowment funds that at this time, they could allow every student to attend for free, and still turn a profit.

Most of the colleges I've seen are very wasteful with their money. Stanford, for instance, caught a lot of flak for buying a $10,000 antique toilet. College presidents spending hundreds of thousands of college dollars to redecorate their personal houses have also become epidemic.

Community colleges and lesser known public colleges are probably the best deal if you're looking for an education. Colleges like Harvard and Yale are best for making connections with the big money people. Texas A&M has in incredibly active alumni group, and Aggies are notorious for preferring to do business with and hire each other.

In most instances, the college degree is only a ticket punch. Many businesses now require one simply as a schmuk strainer. They don't really care where you got one.