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`Jessica's Law' up for vote - Prop. 83 further punishes sex offenders
San Gabriel Valley Tribune ^ | Ruby Gonzales

Posted on 07/31/2006 10:21:35 AM PDT by calcowgirl

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To: sandbar
Any thought to suggesting your son not having sex with underage teenage girls?

Any thought to suggesting your son not engage in premarital sex?

21 posted on 07/31/2006 10:57:59 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: mysterio

The message should be: "Leave children alone." And it should apply to the football hero as well as to an old man. Let the football hero pick on someone his own age.


22 posted on 07/31/2006 10:58:36 AM PDT by Jane Austen
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To: calcowgirl
..."Jessica's Law." It's named for 9-year-old Jessica Marie Lunsford of Florida, who was kidnapped from her bedroom Feb. 23, 2005, and allegedly molested and killed by sex offender John Evander Couey.

This child, Jessica, was repeatedly raped over several days and buried alive. This man should be put to death. It wasn't even the first child he had damaged. Evander should have been put to death years ago. And yeah, I know some of you feel sooooo sorry for these jerks, but really, it's time to protect the innocent.

When a grown man rapes a child, he should be put to death. Look around -- there's plenty of people here - and we don't need to keep these guys alive. We don't need extra people to bring in the crops - it's not the 1700's. It's 2006 and there are people everywhere.

Why vote to support these monsters in a prison setting - with TV and exercise rooms? Vote for justice. Vote for a mandatory death penalty for all child rapists.

23 posted on 07/31/2006 11:00:12 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Jane Austen

Didn't date an older guy in high school, I take it? I dated a sophomore when I was a senior. No sex. But still, in today's climate, I could have been falsely accused and railroaded quite easily. A senior in high school is not an adult, and a sophomore in high school is not a child. If we are going to have these "one size fits all" Orwellian punishments, then perhaps we need to rewrite some of the laws.


24 posted on 07/31/2006 11:07:40 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: sandbar
Yep, see my Post #19 with regards to my son. It DOES happen

A family friend I have know for 40 years was accused of molesting his 11 year old daughter by a vindictive ex-wife. His daughter is now in her late 20's and says that nothing EVER happened and that her mother put her up to the story.

25 posted on 07/31/2006 11:14:57 AM PDT by clamper1797 (CAPITAL LETTERS SUGGEST SOME IMBALANCE IN THE MIND OF THEIR EMPLOYER.)
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http://www.83yes.com/fact_sheet.pdf

 

Comparison of Current Law vs. Jessica’s Law
Current Law: Jessica’s Law:
Mandatory Minimum Sentences for Child Molesters
▪ Sentences are 15 years to life for offenders that rape a child under the age of 14. The offender must be 10 years older than the child. There is ambiguity in the law. ▪ Closes loopholes in current law and ensures California has a mandatory minimum of 15 years to life for any offender that rapes a child under the age of 14. The offender must be 7 years older than the child.
▪ Sentences are 25 years to life if an offender commits a forcible sex act on either a child or adult and has a prior convicted offense, or commits the offense with aggravated assault, among a host of criteria that may be applied as a factor. There is judicial discretion. ▪ For every convicted forcible sex act, the offender will receive consecutive, full-term sentences. (For example, if an offender molests the same child three times or a different child, the offender will receive 45 years to life or 3 consecutive sentences).
▪ Closes loopholes in California law by eliminating judicial discretion to ensure all offenders will be sentenced 25 years to life.
▪ Adds the crime of kidnapping and burglary with the intent to commit a forcible sex crime to the mandatory minimum sentencing of life with the possibility of parole.
    ▪ Adds more crimes like continuous sex abuse of a child to be charged 15-25 years to life.
“Good-Time or Work-Time Credits” for Sex Offenders
▪ Allows sex offenders to reduce their prison terms through the use of “good-time or worktime credits.” ▪ Eliminates the use of “good-time credits” for violent sex offenders, ensuring they serve a full 15 to 25 years before being considered for parole.
GPS Tracking
▪ Permits the state to use GPS tracking as a condition of parole for convicted sex offenders. ▪ Requires registered sex offenders released on parole to be placed on a GPS tracking system for life.
    ▪ Requires offenders to pay for their own GPS equipment, if they are financially able.
Predator-Free Zone
▪ Prohibits some offenders convicted of lewd and lascivious conduct against a child from living within one-quarter mile (1320 ft.) or half-mile (2,600 ft.) of a school, for the duration of their parole. ▪ Prohibits registered sex offenders from living within 2000 ft. of a school or park, for the duration of their registration.
    ▪ Allows local governments to include additional sites they deem appropriate, such as children’s museums or water parks.
“Sexually Violent Predators”
▪ Requires two offenses before a predator can be classified as “sexually violent.” ▪ Allows for an offender to be evaluated as a sexually violent predator after one crime, rather than waiting for a second victim.
▪ “Sexually Violent Predators (SVP’s)” may be civilly committed to a state hospital for a two year term. District Attorneys may file a new petition every two years demonstrating the offender is still a danger. ▪ Requires SVP's parole period to toll while in the state hospital so they serve their parole time after discharge.
▪ SVP’s may run their parole time out while civilly committed, leaving no parole jurisdiction upon release.    
Child Pornography
▪ Possession of child pornography is a misdemeanor.   ▪ Allows DAs to charge a felony on possession of child pornography.
Internet Predators
▪ Current law is incomplete in addressing this problem because it waits for direct harm to occur before criminal penalties can be attached. ▪ Specifically prohibits any contact or communication with a minor for the purpose of engaging in sexual conduct or abuse.
▪ Law enforcement attempts to go undercover to capture internet predators are often disallowed by the courts because of loopholes in California law.   ▪ Closes loopholes by allowing law enforcement to act as decoys in order to engage and capture internet predators.
“Date Rape” Drug Use
▪ Imposes an additional three-year prison term for persons who force the use of specified controlled substances in the commission of a felony.   ▪ Imposes an additional five-year prison term for persons who use specified controlled substances (i.e. date rape drugs) in the commission of specified sexual crimes, such as rape.
Increase Parole Terms and Fines
▪ Provides for parole terms from 3-5 years for various sex offenses. ▪ Provides for parole terms of up to 10 years for the most heinous sex offenses.
    ▪ Increases various fines and penalties.

26 posted on 07/31/2006 11:26:48 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: diogenes ghost

I agree. This stuff should be for repeat or multiple offenders. Too many false accusations and innocent people going to prison.


27 posted on 07/31/2006 11:48:07 AM PDT by stinkerpot65
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To: clamper1797

>>>A family friend I have know for 40 years was accused of molesting his 11 year old daughter by a vindictive ex-wife. His daughter is now in her late 20's and says that nothing EVER happened and that her mother put her up to the story.>>>

That is so sad. I could actually use the words "hate" and "despise" towards my ex-husband, but could never imagine convincing my 11 year old daughter to say something like that about her father! What a whacadoo mother! What that probably did to that little girl. Poor thing.


28 posted on 07/31/2006 12:59:58 PM PDT by sandbar
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To: OldFriend

>>>Any thought to suggesting your son not having sex with underage teenage girls?>>>

30 seconds before he turned 18, she wasn't 'underage'. Jerk.

>>>Any thought to suggesting your son not engage in premarital sex?>>>

Wow, you mean all you have to do to make it where teenagers NEVER HAVE SEX AGAIN is to SUGGEST IT TO THEM???

My, why haven't you gotten the word out, you are a genius!


29 posted on 07/31/2006 1:01:24 PM PDT by sandbar
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To: calcowgirl

Actually, I believe that a life sentence, plus designation as a sexual predator, is the first part of the answer. A life sentence would mean that any release would have to be supervised parole, with rights suspended. In other words, no search warrant required to search person, premises, or vehicles; restrictions on location, and mandatory electronic tracking to ensure compliance; and restrictions on the Governor's power to commute, pardon, or parole these offenders.


30 posted on 07/31/2006 1:25:08 PM PDT by MainFrame65
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To: sandbar

We do know who the 'jerk' is......and we know the parent is the 'jerk' too.


31 posted on 07/31/2006 2:25:38 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: sandbar
My son turned 18, while his girlfriend he had for a year was still 2 months shy of her 16th birthday. He was arrested for 'interfering with child custody' and 'statutory rape' (her mother ASSUMED they were having sex, probably were, but still...).

This girl's mother was a loon ... I'd reckon given that her mother was a nutcase that spent more time at the bars than at home and left most of the housekeeping/mothering of her little brothers to her 15 year old daughter).

Has it ever occurred to you that other parents don't appreciate you defending the right of your 18 year old son have sex with a 15 year old? This is so creepy...

32 posted on 07/31/2006 3:13:21 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: GOPJ
Has it ever occurred to you that other parents don't appreciate you defending the right of your 18 year old son have sex with a 15 year old? This is so creepy...

Has it ever occurred to you that the government and a bunch of yahoos making the boy a sex offender is creepier?

33 posted on 07/31/2006 4:07:36 PM PDT by AlexandriaDuke (Conservatives want freedom. Republicans want power.)
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To: Carry_Okie
How about we just keep the criminals in jail, or kill them like we used to do? Oh, but that WORKED.

It did work. And it will work again.

If the monster who raped little nine year old Jessica, then buried her alive, is put to death, he will never hurt another child.

Once a sexual predator is dead, his life of crime is over. It works 100% of the time.

Push for justice - push for a mandatory death penalty for child rapists.

34 posted on 08/01/2006 6:52:10 AM PDT by GOPJ
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