[DaiHuy]

You said: "If we can build a stable democratic relatively peaceful Iraq, "

Maybe we can build a stairway to the moon also.

We are dealing with Muslims here, not rational people.

[standingfirm]

"You said: "If we can build a stable democratic relatively peaceful Iraq, " Maybe we can build a stairway to the moon also. We are dealing with Muslims here, not rational people.

I have to agree with you. At first, I really thought there was a chance that Iraq could become the "democratic model" of the middle east. I got excited about the blue finger movement.

Now, it's morphed into Al-Sistani taking sides with Hezbollah. Despite the U.S. liberating their country from Saddam, despite the loss of life American military people have sacrificed, despite everything we are doing to build up their infrastructure, they could never support the U.S. and Israel in an armed conflict with Islamists.

They just will never go against what they have always been taught. Zionists and Americans are Dhimmi - no matter what.

[cowdog77]

"We are dealing with Muslims here, not rational people."
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And THAT is the elephant in the room. They are violent, stupid, and easily led.

Violent doesn't ever equal "peaceful" and it takes some intelligence to equal "democratic". None of that exists in the majority of Middle East muslims.

[chasio649]

Maybe we can build a stairway to the moon also.

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That would be easier ;)