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First refusenik in current war: Armored Corps officer [IDF coward]
YNet ^ | July 30, 2006 | Hanan Greenberg

Posted on 07/30/2006 5:24:03 PM PDT by Alouette

Captain Amir Pastar, called up by army in recent days to join fighting in Lebanon, declares Sunday he refuses to take part in war, sentenced to 28 days in military jail. 'He thinks Israel's operation hurts civilians on both sides,' his girlfriend explains

Captain Amir Pastar, 32, a reserve Armored Corps officer, was sentenced to 28 days in military prison Sunday for refusing to take part in IDF operations in the framework of the fighting in Lebanon. Pastar, who has been called up in the recent reserve mobilization, stated that "participating in the war contradicts the values I was brought up upon."

The officer was sentenced by his regimental commander after stating he prefers to serve jail time rather then act against his conscious. Pastar's girlfriend, Nitzan, told Ynet that "even before he received the induction order he was contemplating how he would respond. He has no problem in principle to serve anywhere else, as long as it's not inside Lebanon."

On Sunday morning, when Pastar found out he would have to enter Lebanon, he spoke with his subordinates and informed them he will not take part in the mission. By evening he faced a disciplinary procedure and was sent to prison.

Other refuseniks on way?

Pastar's girlfriend said that Amir believes Israel should not operate inside Lebanon, which is a foreign state. "He thinks it's an act that hurts civilians and jeopardizes civilians on both sides of the border," she explained. She also admitted that the decision not to serve was very difficult and complex in light of the national consensus regarding the war. "It's not easy refusing to take part in this, especially when you're the first one to do so," she said.

Nitzan also said that while Amir gave a lot of thought to this move, he eventually decided he is willing to go to jail in order to stay true to his principles.

There are other soldiers like Amir who feel the same as he does but they avoid reserve duty in other, indirect manners, Nitzan stated. Amir refused to do this and be tried for absenteeism, she explained.

The Yesh Gvul movement reported in this regard that it is currently in touch with more than 10 soldiers and officers who have been called up to serve in Lebanon and decline taking part in the fighting.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: coward; deserter; idf; israel; lebanon; refusenik; traitor
This guy did not "refuse" and go to jail last year when other IDF soldiers protested expelling Jews from their homes.

My son chose not to re-enlist in the IDF last year even though he was nominated for officers' course, because he did not want to refuse orders to carry out the "disengagement."

In spite of that, and the despicable way he was treated by the aliyah department, he said that if his reserve unit is called up HE WILL SERVE.

Amir Pastar is a cowardly little slime who has no problem beating up Jews but is afraid to confront Hezbollah.

1 posted on 07/30/2006 5:24:06 PM PDT by Alouette
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2 posted on 07/30/2006 5:24:29 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 29-34)
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To: Alouette

Captain Amir Pastar is a coward and should be shot. An example needs to made of idiots like this.


3 posted on 07/30/2006 5:27:09 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Alouette
"...he eventually decided he is willing to go to jail in order to stay true to his principles."
So this clown feels goons have a right to lob thousands of rockets into Iraeli towns and villgages and kill REAL innocent people. Hope the IDF brigs are ran as tough as the Camp Pendleton Marine brig where Marines with alleged charges are frog marched in chains and keep in solitary confinement based on what some dirt ball arab claims they did to a few Iraqi.
I stand at attention and salute all the brave Israeli soldiers and airforce that put their hides on the line each day to protect the state of Israel from the sheer evils that surround them.
4 posted on 07/30/2006 5:49:20 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Alouette

A country completely surrounded by hostile forces cannot afford the luxury of having a member of their armed forces, especially an officer, refusing to fight.

I didn't realize that there were fools in Israel like here in the U.S.


5 posted on 07/30/2006 5:50:57 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Longbow1969

How do you get to be a Captain in the IDF if your conscience tells you not to fight?


6 posted on 07/30/2006 5:52:18 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Longbow1969

Give him the Private Slovik treatment.


7 posted on 07/30/2006 5:53:28 PM PDT by dfwgator
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8 posted on 07/30/2006 6:01:37 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Alouette

Charge Amir Pastar with desertion.


9 posted on 07/30/2006 6:03:22 PM PDT by garbageseeker (It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.”Samuel Clemmens)
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This weasel has probably been reading DU or Daily KOS.


10 posted on 07/30/2006 6:05:35 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Alouette
I usually agree with you but I have one problem with your post.

You can call Amir Pastar a "cowardly little slime" but you state he has "no problem beating up Jews." That implies, in my way of thinking, that he actually participated in the shameful events at the West Bank settlement last year and had no regrets. I can understand your anger about the beatings that occurred, especially when your son was injured, but I don't think you can prove that Amir Pastar was personally beating up Jews at that time nor at any other.

11 posted on 07/30/2006 6:54:54 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Alouette

The news of Amir Pastar's refulsal to take part in this war should have not become public, IMO. Okay, okay, I know it had to come out eventually, but this is too soon. It's bad enough that most of the world is against Israel in their war against terror. It's worse still when the media, like vultures, jumps on a shameful story like this and tries to make a hero out of a traitor.


12 posted on 07/30/2006 7:00:01 PM PDT by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are intimate bedfellows)
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To: Alouette

There was once a code of ethics and rules.

If an able man refuses to serve, give him a 2nd chance.
If he still refuses, shoot him.


13 posted on 07/30/2006 8:17:50 PM PDT by Prost1 (We can build a wall, we can evict - "Si, se puede!")
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To: justiceseeker93

Maybe I should have said, he had no problem with Jews being beaten up.


14 posted on 07/30/2006 8:23:53 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 29-34)
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To: Alouette
Maybe I should have said, he had no problem with Jews being beaten up.

But we just don't know if that's true or not, and that's my point.

15 posted on 07/30/2006 9:38:37 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Marine_Uncle

He did stand up for his principles, so he is a traitor rather than a coward.

I hope they hang the bastard.


16 posted on 07/30/2006 9:58:51 PM PDT by Sixgun Symphony
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" I hope they hang the bastard."
A fair trial within the Israeli military court system, if it comes to that, will demonstrate what the Israeli are fighting for. Justice under the law.
17 posted on 07/31/2006 4:40:16 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Alouette

Just an observation/question: Everytime I have seen the name "Amir", it has belonged to a muslim. Is it possible this guy is one of those "Arab Israelis"? I know that being muslim doesn't disqualify one from having full citizenship in Israel, but do muslim citizens also have to serve in the IDF the same way everyone else does?

I could be totally wrong - "Amir" may be one of those names that pops up on both sides...


18 posted on 08/02/2006 7:59:04 PM PDT by AirForceBrat23
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