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To: TKDietz

I believe anyone will reveal their innermost thoughts and feelings when drunk.

Why DO so many (non-muslims) hate Jews so much?


197 posted on 08/02/2006 9:00:38 AM PDT by Muzzle_em (taglines are for sissies)
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To: Muzzle_em
"Why DO so many (non-muslims) hate Jews so much?"

I have never really understood that. To tell you the truth though, I've only seen Jew hating on TV. Our Jewish population is very small where I live and except for stupid jokes about Jews and money I've never really heard any negative talk about Jews. I've never heard anyone in person saying they don't believe the Holocaust happened, and I've never heard anyone blame all of our problems on Jews. I've only seen that kind of stuff on TV. I don't know that there really are so many who hate Jews. No doubt there are some out there but it doesn't seem to be a very big percentage of our population.

Now, there are people who are not big supporters of the Israeli government who don't understand our unbending support for that government, but I don't automatically assume that people who aren't big fans of some of the things the Israeli government does are Jew haters. To be quite honest, I'm not much of a supporter of Israel. That country does nothing for me. I like and respect the only Jewish people I know, but that country over on the other side of the world is someone else's problem, not mine. As terrible as this might sound, I think we'd probably all be better off if the entire Middle East, including Israel, were to drop off the face of the earth. That whole region is nothing but trouble for us. That little scrap of land controlled at present by the Israeli government is just a source of major headaches. Everyone is always fighting over it. To me, it's just a scrap of land. If it disappeared I don't think that would hurt people's relationship with God one bit, yet all the turmoil is religion based. It's "holy land," as if God is more present there than anywhere else. I just don't buy that.

If it was up to me we'd cut Israel off from the billions we give them every year and tell them if they ever want to be put on the dole again they need to fix their problems with their neighbors. If they can't do it, so be it. It's not our problem. I'm sure a lot of people reading this will say my words make me a Jew hater, but that is not the case at all. I don't have a problem with Jews. I just don't understand giving Israel preferential treatment, sending them billions and billions of dollars and supporting just about everything they do.

As far as I'm concerned they should take care of themselves and we should take care of our own. To me Israel is just another country in the world like any other. I do not believe we are under any mandate from God to give their government any preferential treatment. I do think though that the main reason we support that country so fervently is that many in this country believe that God commands it. I personally don't know that this particular government in Israel is sanctioned by God and that we owe them any special favor. I'm a little frightened by those so eager to defend Israel to the death, to go head first into a religious war on their behalf, those who have themselves convinced the Apocalypse is upon us who seem bent on hastening the end of the world so they can get to Heaven quicker. And it ticks me off that anyone who ever says anything negative about Israel is automatically branded a Jew hater. That's almost like saying that anyone who ever says anything negative about the Italian government is a Catholic hater. It seems like you either support the Israeli government or you are branded an anti-semite. That's bull. To heck with that. People can call me all the names they want. I'm sick of all the trouble from that entire region and as far as I'm concerned those people over there can fight all the wars they want to fight among themselves. We need to pull out and pull support for all those governments. I'm sick of them all.
198 posted on 08/02/2006 10:59:11 AM PDT by TKDietz
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To: Muzzle_em
Why DO so many (non-muslims) hate Jews so much?

A large part of it is that various cultural factors (Jewish traditional reverence for education, and in earlier times restrictions against landowning by Jews) have tended to create a successful Jewish middle class. This naturally made them the targets of envy.

In particular, Christendom used to proscribe the lending of money at interest (as the Muslim world still does, though they come up with various work-arounds to achieve a similar result). This left the field open to Jews, which was a double-edged sword -- they made money, but in a way that aggrivated the envy of those who were in debt to them and created a temptation to stir up pogroms as a way of liquidating the debt by eliminating the creditor.

200 posted on 08/02/2006 12:20:30 PM PDT by steve-b ("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
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