[thomaswest]

Re 205: To answer your other rhetorical questions, Scripture is very clear that The Fall ocurred, and the promised consequences have been terrible: death. But there is a Savior....

Ah, the ultimate refuge--a "scripture" from a believer tradition. Which 'scripture' did you have in mind?

Everything written 2000 years ago failed to account for atoms and molecules, failed for X-rays and modern medicine, failed to understand sex and reproduction.

The neat thing about science is that it works even when you don't believe it. The planets keep orbiting, thermodynamics keeps on, biochemical processes keep us alive--all whether you believe it or not.

Going to heaven or hell is quite different. There is zero evidence either scientifically or historically, and if you lead your life full of a "terrible fear", the outcome is the same. If a "savior" comforts you, go for it.

[RFC_Gal]

Hell exists. I have been there, it is a small town in the NE portion of Oklahoma the name of which I will not mention.

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