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To: Nightshift

So a lot of it is word of mouth, which I hope is true, as people need to be saved, which you seem to reject.

I don't even understand the concept of being "saved".  To my pagan ears it sounds like someone trying to peddle snake oil.

Be it Hindu, Budda, Islam, or whatever, there is always someone who wants you to be converted. It is not just in religion but in politics, work, and life. So tell me, when you are at work, do you not conform to the rules and regulations? If you do, then you have been converted to their style of work.

Definitely not. Its only a contract where we come to an agreement with the organisation (that we work for) over a common set of goals/objectives that meet the expectation of the employee and also that of the employer. Together (me and the company) work towards achieving the common objectives that meets my requirements and the company meets its own. My association with the organisation remains only so long as the organisation meets my objective. I don't convert anybody and nobody converts me. I am still an individual in my own right. I still retain my own personal view-point as regarding anything at all.

Are you a republican, democrat, libertarian or whatever political party you chose, guess what, you have been converted to their political views.
Conversion is change and any time you change you convert.

If conversion is merely change then how do you say that Hindus are converts. Most Hindus are Hindus by birth and haven't changed their religious view-point since birth.

Yes, I want people to convert. I want to see them come to know the Lord. Some will, many won't, but I will keep on trying just like Thomas and what you are saying now is trying to convert me to a life style of not converting people. Kind of ironic, don't you think?

Conversion of the Christian kind is not simply "change".  Its change for the worse. It means to give up on ones individuality and rational thinking and freedom of choice. It means to comply with the religious diktats of an higher organisation (which in this case is a Church). If the Church say that the idols you are worshiping is that of a demon then you have to comply and do away with the idols. If the Church say that Jesus is the only God then they are not allowed it question it or believe otherwise. Hinduism is far different and it is a religion of individuals. Hindus can have their own religious view point, worship Jesus or any other God if they want, or remain an atheist and yet they will still be a Hindu. I believe it is the only true religion in the world. Other religions are only partly true and mere shadows of Hinduism.


209 posted on 08/02/2006 11:53:00 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Gengis Khan
If conversion is merely change then how do you say that Hindus are converts. Most Hindus are Hindus by birth and haven't changed their religious view-point since birth.

So there are no converts to your religion?

223 posted on 08/02/2006 5:47:06 PM PDT by Nightshift (Faith is something everyone has. The question is faith in what?)
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