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To: beltfed308

Is the search really causing your rights to be taken away? I hear this argument and I have to tell you, I just don't feel any rights being taken away at all. I have nothing to hide, they can search me all day in the name of safety for a game with 80,000 people.


11 posted on 07/29/2006 11:40:48 AM PDT by SideoutFred (Save us from the Looney Left)
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To: SideoutFred
Is the search really causing your rights to be taken away?

If without probable cause then yes.

15 posted on 07/29/2006 11:45:18 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Nanny Statists are Ameba's.)
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To: SideoutFred
Is the search really causing your rights to be taken away? Yes. Now if this was private property it would be different, but it isn't. The stadium appears to be own and ran by the government so different rules apply. Why not sell the stadium to a group of private investors?
19 posted on 07/29/2006 11:57:02 AM PDT by RFC_Gal (There is no tagline)
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To: SideoutFred

I agree with you, I'll give up some things and this is one item I have no problem with....that being said I must say the "patdowns" that are done are pretty worthless (at least at the stadiums I've been to including in MN, Chicago, Cleveland)...I know plenty of people who have snuck in items that would be as big as any explosive device would be...it's not like a crafty person is stopped by these preventative activities...a person on a mission will find the weaknesses in the system and exploit them no matter how much security is present...some of those in the security business after all are folks who are easily distracted or very bored, non-caring people who just want a job that pays ok...

I'm not knocking security folks-the vast majority take it very seriously, but I know we've all seen the 19 year old guy who is working at the ballpark for the baseball or football season who's way more interested in getting a look at the hot soccer mom or some college hottie than keeping a potential terrorist from blowing himself up inside...


28 posted on 07/29/2006 1:02:56 PM PDT by phatus maximus (John 6:29...Learn it, love it, live it...)
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To: SideoutFred
"Is the search really causing your rights to be taken away? I hear this argument and I have to tell you, I just don't feel any rights being taken away at all. I have nothing to hide, they can search me all day in the name of safety for a game with 80,000 people."

Oh boy! The more government types are going to love you!

Heaven forbid we actually expel ALL practicing muslims from this country based on the following and leave the lawful US Citizen alone:

We need to define what can be classified and protected as a valid religion. I suggest a few simple litmus tests that any group seeking 1st amendment protection must pass. If your belief fails any of the litmus tests below you belong to a hate group and must be expelled from the country.

#1: If your belief commands you to kill or enslave those who are not of your religion then you fail the litmus test. .

#2: If your belief commands you to kill anyone who leaves your organization then you fail the litmus test.

#3: If your belief demands you kill or enslave anyone who writes, draws, speaks negatively about your belief you fail the litmus test.

51 posted on 07/31/2006 10:31:25 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (The difference between democrats and terrorists is the terrorists don't claim to support the troops)
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