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To: maine-iac7

With intrigue, I noticed on the page a little box to the side of other reports on Gibson. Clicking the link on the "miniseries on the Holocaust," I read where he is "involved" with the making of this movie about a love story about a non-jewish boyfriend of a Dutch jewish lady, sheltered of her identity by her protector during Nazi occupation in Holland over a three year stretch.

To comment on the initial article of this thread, it is no big secret that police in the Malibu/Hollywood area have been stigmitized (true or not) as being opportunistic, awaiting the day they arrest a big star. And it should be noted Hollywood movie-making are owned and controlled by many non-orthodox jewish influences.

Having said that, let us assume there is a hint of truth in Gibson's anti-semite tirade. Having been angry at the direction of our country and the world at large for most of my adult life, I can attest that any particular "hate" for something is usually rooted in some personal experiences over a period of time.

I mean, given what we have been told of the Holocaust, and the myriad of movies showing the evil deeds of the Nazi's, we can deduce that the Jews hate the Nazi's...and probably for very good reason...Right? So, now that we have established that Jews can hate too, we can also reason that they would hate anything associated with bringing disdain upon any of their actions as a group, e.g. "Passion..."

My point is this: How does anyone even really know what goes on behind the scenes of Gibson's life? How do we know that he has not taken a strong hit of hate from jewish forces themselves? Heck, we all know that they have the power, money, and influence to perpetrate such acts; unlike any small-town, podunk, trailer trashing gentile commoner. Right?

The fact is folks, when I get angry about something, it just did not spring up out of nowhere for no reason. People get angry because something of an adverse nature happens to them. So, assuming the story is true, what was it that made him so angry, spewing the alleged epithets? THAT is the question we should be asking.

What really matters here is the truth. Conspircy theories of jewish power broking the most influencial communications industry has been around for years. The fact remains that "jews," at least for the unorthodox jews, they are not beyond reproach and they have the capacity, and means, to hate as well as anyone body else. The fact is, we are all capable of hating certain groups that we have-by experience in many cases-suffered the effects of their actions.

All I can say is this: So what? So what if it is true? Who are we to judge? You know, all of us who sit here offering up opinions when in fact, we too, hide behind our secret prejudices, covering our sins with a cloak of decency? Being a Christian, I can truly attest that I do my best to love my neighbor no matter who he is. As a matter of fact, I hold to a philosophy of trust that many say is gullible: I trust you automatically until you give me a reason not to. I believe we all deserve at least that. However, if you ever give me a reason not to trust you, and if those reasons are damaging to a point that it violates my rights or the rights of my family, jew or gentile, fat or skinny, black or white, you are scum in my book and deserve every angry feeling I can muster. While ethnicity is a shallow way to judge groups, make no mistake that SOME, let me say that again, SOME, have perfectly good reasons to hate them. IF, by chance, Gibson is one of those, the only question I would ask, if I was a reporter, is WHY? Barring all things but the truth, many of us would probably feel very uncomfortable with the answer.


224 posted on 07/29/2006 3:51:40 AM PDT by Arrowhead
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225 posted on 07/29/2006 4:03:28 AM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: Arrowhead
Having said that, let us assume there is a hint of truth in Gibson's anti-semite tirade. Having been angry at the direction of our country and the world at large for most of my adult life, I can attest that any particular "hate" for something is usually rooted in some personal experiences over a period of time.

What???!

Are you condoning anti-semitism? Sure sounds like it to me.

If Jews rule the world, they've been awfully nice to Mel Gibson. He's one the richest and most successful players in Hollywood. But clearly his success has not brought him peace nor happiness.

As far as his being a Jewhater, I've thought so for a long time. I hate to say I told you so, but...

227 posted on 07/29/2006 4:15:47 AM PDT by veronica (Clown Posse - bear-ly sane...)
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To: Arrowhead
All I can say is this: So what? So what if it is true? Who are we to judge?

Some of the things he is supposed to have said sound like they came right out of Louis Farrakhan's mouth. Or Cindy Sheehan's. I have every right to judge them, and him.

Very successful people in Hollywood are surrounded by yes-men and sycophants. They begin to believe their own PR. They feel invincible. Directors in particular can be autocratic and spoiled. They are kings in their world (the movie set) and they don't like being challenged.

232 posted on 07/29/2006 4:39:23 AM PDT by veronica (Clown Posse - bear-ly sane...)
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To: Arrowhead
Great post. I'll say more later. Gotta get outside to work.

Suffice it to say, that if I say what I really mean and have observed about the increasing decay of American culture (media, entertainment, the schools, advertising, etc., etc.), it would be most likely taken the wrong way. So I'll keep it to myself. Let's just say that these sick Islamo-fascists are not the only cause for alarm in the world.

242 posted on 07/29/2006 5:00:48 AM PDT by beyond the sea (The truth exists even when it is ignored.)
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