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(Mel) Gibson's Anti-Semitic Tirade -- Alleged Cover Up
TMZ ^ | July 28, 2006

Posted on 07/28/2006 10:12:47 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative

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To: Scarlet7

Your judgement is impaired so you just might say something your ordinarily wouldn't say publicly...like F**KING JEWS! But that's not something you just come up with out of thin air. That's the kind of judgement that would be impaired. I know about drinking, believe me...when I used to drink...whatever I thought came out MORE SO...if I debated politics, I'd be a louder right winger...I wouldn't say I was a libertarian? Do you understand what I'm saying by true self?


381 posted on 07/29/2006 12:49:08 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Yaelle
You could fill me full of Chivas, tequila, beer, heroin, or chocolate and I would never swear at the police. I would never speak ill of any race or religion.

Alcoholism is much different than a simple drunk. Gibson has admitted that he had an alcohol problem. At one point he had kicked it. Apparently he's drinking again. Alcoholics have blackouts and say and do things they normally would not. And they have no memory of it. I met a woman who called her Hubby "a travelling drunk". He'd wake up across the country and not know how he got there.They'd send him bus fare home.

382 posted on 07/29/2006 12:51:06 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: TexasTransplant
Still a .12 BAC isn't a belligerent drunk (as reported) so something stinks with this story.

A bartender on this very website told me, two years ago, that a true alcoholic can get "drunk" on two drinks.

383 posted on 07/29/2006 12:51:56 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: Pharmboy
obviously has a friend inside the LAPD

Just a small point. It wasn't LAPD but LA Sheriffs. Don't know as that makes a differece.

384 posted on 07/29/2006 12:53:27 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Hildy

Again, I'm not making excuses for him. His biggest mistake was taking that first drink.

Were you ever so angry that you said something pretty irrational to make someone else angry that you regretted the moment you said it. If you said it sober, believe me, you would say it alot quicker drunk.


385 posted on 07/29/2006 12:54:12 PM PDT by Scarlet7
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To: Yaelle
I'm leaning in the direction that these reports are true, but I'll reserve the right to change my mind in light of future reporting. The article states that the incident was caught on camera, and the video footage backs up the claims in the report, so it would be a slam dunk libel/defamation lawsuit in Gibson's favor if the video contradicts the report.

That being said, I pass no judgement on the man. Alcohol has different effects on different people. Mel never claimed to be Christ, he just produced a movie about His death.

386 posted on 07/29/2006 12:58:18 PM PDT by highimpact
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To: West Coast Conservative

Sounds more like PCP than liquor.


387 posted on 07/29/2006 1:02:36 PM PDT by Graymatter ("Put only Americans on guard tonight." -- George Washington)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Alcoholics have blackouts and say and do things they normally would not. And they have no memory of it.

If this is Mel's excuse, it's going to take a LOT of work for anyone to listen to him explain this, should he sober up one day and want to apologize.

388 posted on 07/29/2006 1:03:21 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle
If this is Mel's excuse, it's going to take a LOT of work for anyone to listen to him explain this, should he sober up one day and want to apologize.

I have no idea what he'll say. I was explaining alcoholism as you didn't seem to understand it. Going out and getting drunk once in awhile is very different than being an alcoholic and what it does to a person.

389 posted on 07/29/2006 1:07:19 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: highimpact
The article states that the incident was caught on camera, and the video footage backs up the claims in the report, so it would be a slam dunk libel/defamation lawsuit in Gibson's favor if the video contradicts the report.

Another reason I believe the cops.

That being said, I pass no judgement on the man.

That is painful to hear. Boorish obscene behavior and language should be judged, regardless of what the person imbibes. And the anti-Semitic remarks, if they are not judged, lead to death, as has been historically noted.

390 posted on 07/29/2006 1:09:40 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: DJ MacWoW
Going out and getting drunk once in awhile is very different than being an alcoholic and what it does to a person.

I do understand alcoholism but luckily only from a textbook perspective. I do know that at its absolute worst, the vitamin deficiencies do cause severe, permanent brain damage. Mel can't be that far gone yet and thus remains responsible for his behavior. AA would agree.

391 posted on 07/29/2006 1:13:18 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: sinkspur
I have bar tended myself (worst job I ever had), seen all types, had a Linebacker for the Bengals that used to twist off all the door knobs before he left (who knows why)

At that time .12 was the legal limit and actually we had very few problems, as a bartender you have to cut people off if they appear to be intoxicated, easy to do if they are drinking mixed drinks (they just get virgins) the beer drinkers just got cut off.

A .12 BAC is basically a sober patron, just wasn't legal for them to drive.

We made a mistake and installed a coin operated BAC machine and all it did was create a drinking competition with the College crowd.

If any part of this story is true the .12 BAC is minimal as far as being a contributing factor.

TT
392 posted on 07/29/2006 1:14:22 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Thanks for the correction. And, it would make more sense that they had friends at the local sheriff's office in Malibu.


393 posted on 07/29/2006 1:15:59 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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To: sinkspur

In his case, the acorn did not fall far from the tree.


394 posted on 07/29/2006 1:16:32 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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To: Yaelle
should he sober up one day

Wonder what his alcohol level was.
395 posted on 07/29/2006 1:16:49 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Yaelle
I do know that at its absolute worst, the vitamin deficiencies do cause severe, permanent brain damage. Mel can't be that far gone yet and thus remains responsible for his behavior.

He was a drunk for years when he was younger. I saw a Kiefer Sutherland interview in which he talks about blackouts and having no idea what he did. There doesn't need to be brain damage for there to be blackouts.

396 posted on 07/29/2006 1:18:12 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Pharmboy
And, IMO, this episode has tainted the movie that his fans always denied had any Jew-hatred in it. Harder to defend now, eh?

Not at all. Mel's movies stand or fall on their own merits. Many great filmmakers have been horrible people with abhorrent views about many things. Even if Mel falls into that category (and I'm not saying that he does), it doesn't "taint" what he's already done.
397 posted on 07/29/2006 1:19:48 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: sinkspur

I admit.... I do not want to believe this story.
maybe too much

TT


398 posted on 07/29/2006 1:19:58 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Scarchin

Marlon Brando at least waited til just before he died to make such comments. There was an interview, where he openly claimed that Hollywood is owned by the Jews.

Too late to punish him.

I can't see Mel being that loose with his words. Must have been a very weak moment for him. Something must have happened.


399 posted on 07/29/2006 1:23:50 PM PDT by television is just wrong (our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: sinkspur
Gibson netted, according to reports, nearly $700 million from The Passion.

That doesn't sound right. From what I've seen (and I admit, I haven't followed the ticket sales very closely) the Passion grossed close to $612 million world wide. So it would seem a bit out of synch that Gibson could have netted $700 million from that movie.

Still, whatever he netted, it was likely a pretty large sum- more than enough to keep his career occupied, as you suggested.

400 posted on 07/29/2006 1:24:24 PM PDT by new cruelty
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