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Watch Ann Go Whoosh! - Analyzing La Coulter
Lexis Nexus News (National Review) ^ | August 07, 2006 | Florence King

Posted on 07/28/2006 2:46:39 PM PDT by jwalburg

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To: jwalburg

Florence does capture the vapidity of network news rather well. Whoosh; whoosh; whoosh.


81 posted on 07/29/2006 1:15:40 AM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: pageonetoo

OMG!!! Is that a Madame Tussaud's wax Ann??!! Creepy!!


82 posted on 07/29/2006 1:21:50 AM PDT by paulat
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To: Fairview

a lesbian




What is a lesbian doing at a supposedly conservative magazine?


83 posted on 07/29/2006 1:38:06 AM PDT by balch3
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To: jwalburg
Flo's problem is that she made a pass at Ann and got turned down flat, it felt like a sledgehammer, how could Ann have been so insensitive.

I'd post a picture of Flo here, but it would probably get me banned.

84 posted on 07/29/2006 1:57:43 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Striving to obtain liberal victim status.)
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To: balch3

Don'r tell anybody, but Vice President Cheney's daughter is a lesbian


85 posted on 07/29/2006 6:28:08 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (snotty, self-important, arrogant fan of Florence King and her ilk)
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To: jwalburg; Rocky; Whit; The Red Zone; BelegStrongbow; Fairview; SouthCarolinaKit; Oztrich Boy; ...
jwalburg wrote: "I'd be more willing to look further at King if she hadn't woodenly called Ann "dull as a post.""

I never apologize for anyone else's behavior (or writing style for that matter) but you are taking King's remark of context.

By the way, you can safely count me among the Ann Coulter defenders as well as a Florence King fan.

Here is the whole paragraph:

"At her best, Coulter writes well, but the chief source of her success is that she is a perfect match for the American ideal: smart as a whip but dumb as a post, educated but not learned, sexy but not sensuous, all at the same time."

To me, what *that* paragraph says is:

The American ideal is someone ismart - but in the sense of common sense and does not wear their smartness on her sleeves and brags; someone with school learning but who does not pontificate, who is not pedantic; someone attractive, even sexy, like your girl next door - not someone vamping around with more skin than clothing, not someone with silicone lips or wardrobe malfunctions.

Take a hypothetical example of a guy running for sheriff. Let's say the guy has a *doctorate in criminology. But he won't advertise it. His campaign signs will read

James "Big Jim" Walburg for Sheriff

not:

Dr. James T. Walburg wants to be Your Sheriff.

Why? Walburg may have ample school learning, but the average voter, like me, can not relate to Dr. Walberg, only "Big Jim".

When "Big Jim" campaigns, Big Jim shows up in jeans and and western wear. Not the shirt and tie and fancy suit he got his diploma in. He is plain spoken, talks about crooks and bad guys - not elements of society battling socio-economic and cultural forces that manifest themselves in crime against societal norms.

In short, *Dr.* Walberg does NOT meet my *ideal* of the sheriff, but Big Jim does. You get the point.

And now, to Ann Coulter. I *really like her. Why? Smart as a whip but yet can play as dumb a post and trap someone on live TV no less. She is clearly well-learned, legal background, extensive grasp of the English language, and can cut through BS with a sword, not a stiletto. She has a good analytic capability. Finally, she is easy on the eyes.

In other words, Coulter is a perfect match for *my American ideal. Which is exactly what King said. ;)

The disagreement I *do have with King's current article is that Coulter's being the perfect match for the American ideal is *not* the only reason for Coulter's success. You, I, and many here on FR can relate to *what* Coulter says. We enjoy seeing a good slap down at the Liberals, particularly live. The Liberals have enjoyed extensive media coverage for years - it is about time that the tables are turned.

Florence King writes well, she polishes her phrases, perhaps too smoothly. Her lifestyle is inconsequential to me. And she probably wishes she were as popular as Ann Coulter. But times have changed.

It is unfortunate that some Coulter threads on FR have turned acrimonious. Probably for every two or three Coulter defenders there is someone who wishes she would express an opinion in a different way. Coulter does exemplify our time, IMO, and that is what King says.

It is also unfortunate some are attacking the messenger (King), rather than the message.... When King was writing for NR, you could often count on her to expose the Clintons innards with a scalpel. But she was an equal opportunity cutter. Her scalpel sliced anyone who demonstrated folly.

In fact, her columns were titled "The Misanthrope's Corner". http://www.nationalreview.com/mc/misanthrope_archive.html

Someone once asked King, "Why do you hate people?" To which King replied, "Who else is there?"

End of essay;)

86 posted on 07/29/2006 6:43:15 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: jwalburg
I think Ms King misses the point. The verbal stiletto requires the recipient to have the wit to recognize the stiletto. The modern Political Left lacks the intellect for the stiletto.

Ann merely reduces the her commentary to a level the Leftists can comprehend. If Ann addressed her bon mots in the approved Victorian style of Ms King, they would simply sail completely over the head of the current collection of Leftists. Ann "uses a sledgehammer" because there simply is no other way to actually communicate with our current crop of Political Leftists. They lack the wit and intellect to recognize the stiletto

87 posted on 07/29/2006 6:51:45 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
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To: jwalburg
Is Florence King still living? I thought she had died.

So, this nobody 'conservative' Lesbian comes back to weave this tiresome web just so she can call Ann a "b*tch" without having the courage to actually say it?

And, by the way, Florence King is no Dorothy Parker. Could Florence's attack on Ann be motivated by ENVY?

88 posted on 07/29/2006 7:10:53 AM PDT by WashingtonSource (Freedom is not free.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Well said;)


89 posted on 07/29/2006 7:10:59 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: MNJohnnie

Excellent analysis.


90 posted on 07/29/2006 7:41:28 AM PDT by Rocky (.)
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To: Cap'n Crunch
I'll stick with Ann and Sobran.

Florence King is okay.

She's a good writer who never has anything good to say about and hardly much more than that that's good about anything. She actually says more good things about Ann here than she does about most of her subjects.

Ann and Florence do different types of writing--- Florence writes to be funny whereas Ann writes to make an impact, and usually a political one.

So even though I've enjoyed reading Florence King, I can understand your comment that you like Ann Coulter much more than her.

But Joe Sobran? Maybe he was okay back when he (along with Florence King) wrote for National Review. I have to disagree there. Sure, he still writes good columns from time to time on literature, culture, maybe sometimes even on political issues. But today the guy is an anti-American, anti-Israel clod:

"The 9/11 attacks would never have occurred except for the U.S. Government's Middle East policies [support for Israeli defense] which are pretty much dictated by the Jewish-Zionist powers that be in the United States. The Zionists boast privately of their power, but they don't want the gentiles talking about it."

http://www.sobran.com/issuetexts/2002-04.htm
http://www.sobran.com/fearofjews.shtml

In "Fear of the Jews" the guy even twists Abraham Lincoln's desire to free slaves and send them to Africa before he was elected President. Sobran claims this means that Lincoln, far from being a humanitarian, simply wanted an all white nation... But in point of fact, the idea that blacks should be helped to re-colonize Africa was held by many fighters against slavery. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part2/2h59.html

I agree Ann is great. But Joe Sobran stands against, rather than with her--- at best he is a "September tenth" columnist.

91 posted on 07/29/2006 7:47:12 AM PDT by mjolnir ("All great change in America begins at the dinner table.")
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To: balch3

She's a conservative lesbian like Tammy Bruce. I know some conservative lesbians. They're nice people: gun-totin', love the president and the flag, support the war, hate taxes and social programs, hate the feminists.


92 posted on 07/29/2006 8:36:06 AM PDT by Fairview
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To: mjolnir

Well, yeah I can see your point about Joe. I still like his writing though, I guess it's a catholic thing.

And, Sept. 10th's my birthday. :-)


93 posted on 07/29/2006 12:29:58 PM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: mjolnir

Gotta agree. I used to like Sobran, but he did make me nervous whenever broaching Israel or the Middle East. Didn't he have a plagiarism problem once, also, or am I confusing him with someone else?


94 posted on 07/29/2006 1:47:20 PM PDT by jwalburg (It wasn't the Executive that Thomas Jefferson referred to as "the Despotic Branch.")
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