Gotta read this.
Posted on 07/28/2006 8:20:58 AM PDT by mjp
One of the bizarre aspects of the article at the top of this thread is the focus it places on Japan's national morality, militaristic culture, etc. What makes this so silly in the context of justifying the use of atomic bombs on civilian populations is that in 1945 the U.S. decided to drop one of those two bombs on one of the only places in Japan (Nagasaki) that had a sizeable Christian population.
I'm sorry, but I smell "bullsh!t" on this one.
Right. And U.S. military personnel have spent 60+ years since the end of World War II preparing to fight any number of wars against any number of enemies. Some people were so focused on this that they probably retired from the military with almost a sense of disappointment that Soviet tanks never came rolling into western Europe.
Gotta read this.
Ping! ...one of the best articles I've read in a while.
Good job mjp!
"He does not accept terms; he demands prostrate surrender, or death, for everyone if necessary." Precisely what Mad Mohammed teaches in the koran ... and we wonder if these demon servants will negotiate for peace, to stop the Israeli defense of their homes and lives. Hah! They will just stand up their children and wives to die by Israeli bombs and bullets, to pretend their cause is righteous. Islam is terrorism institutionalized in allah, the lesser moon goddess of Mohammed's day when he created this 'religion', this dogma of convert or fall to the sword.
"... and had been seeking to negotiate a surrender through various methods and channels for months prior to the dropping of the bombs." We see the same sham process at work with MaMooed Imafoolajihad, but as before, you are among the blind who do not see and will refuse to see the sham in this 'negotiation' process, you and J.Feckless Kerry.
Wombat - The whole point of that section of the article was that by bringing the horror of the war directly to the civilians (who largely supported it), they'd be less inclined to pursue or accept war in the future.
It wasn't necessary to end WW2, but to prevent the Japanese from starting WW3 later.
Give the ISlamofascists enough time to negotiate and they will eventually incinerate you and your feckless musings.
Nothing would bring a nation like that to its knees faster than seeing a supposedly immortal demi-god like the emperor vanish in a column of fire.
#4 only leads to more intense #4.
Israel needs to nuke the closest city from where the missiles cross its border and promise more. The only way to deal with a fanatic arab is after their body temp equals that of the outside air.
Israel's nuclear arsenal is pretty much useless against most of their adjoining neighbors, since those countries are so small that the fallout would impact Israel almost as much as it would impact the target.
That's why it was chosen as the drop-site instead of Tokyo.
And I would suggest that approaching warfare in that type of environment -- where nation-states are little more than a post-colonial construct without any defining ties like culture, language, religion, etc. -- is utterly pointless.
>>>The Moral Lesson of Hiroshima<<<
The moral is, if you are fighting a bunch of suicidal maniacs, wipe out their cities, one by one, with the intent of wiping out more, until the suicide attacks stop.
The same moral lesson can be applied to the Islamic suicidal maniacs by wiping out their mosques and 'holy' cities, one by one, until they repent of their evil ways.
I agree, it probably should have been Tokyo.
But that doesn't leave out that the Allied command had a lot of bad options. Invade, blockade, or nukes all had the cost of a lot of civilians dead. I think nukes were chosen because that had the least amount of Allied dead, and because it was a new weapon and no one really knew what to expect with it.
In the end, MacArthur used the Emperor to good advantage.
Hirohito was a weak man that could be manipulated and used as a tool and, in MacArthur's hands, he became a useful tool for the good of Japan's future as a modern democratic nation.
Give you enough time and you might actually evolve into a human being.
Feckless? Yes, I'm certain the indiscriminate methods of merely killing enough of "the other guy" ALWAYS work. How sophisticated and intelligent of you to see that where I could not (/sarcasm on).
Got news of you; within the context of the Second World War, the German Army inflicted casualties (killed and wounded) of 15 to 1 against the Soviets and 7 to 1 against the Allies from June 6, 1944 onwards. And they still lost.
War is not always about which side can kill more.
Oh, and the Islamonazis tried to incinerate me already on 9/11... and they missed, and not for want of trying. I want Islamic society transformed from a series of mental defects to somethig we can live with and tolerate too, but that doesn't require a mushroom cloud.
Feckless? Yes, I'm certain the indiscriminate methods of merely killing enough of "the other guy" ALWAYS work. The feckless referred to your inability to see that you and your sort are being played for fools with the 'negotiation' tactic by Islamofascists, while they develop the very weaponry they intend to incinerate you and the feckless democrats.
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