Posted on 07/27/2006 11:39:13 PM PDT by Marius3188
Nah, this isn't a 'border thread' it's all about child pornography.
Found two references to perps with the same name here:
Massachusetts to Florida: Stuart Romm, a former administrative law judge from Brockton, Massachusetts was extradited to Florida to face charges of transmitting child pornography and soliciting sex over the Internet from a young boy, who was actually a Florida sheriff.[110]
http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/ppncpt5.htm
Distribution of child pornography has expanded exponentially with advances in computer technology and increased availability and popular use of the Internet. Southern Nevadas ICAC has been instrumental in developing cases against persons who commit child exploitation crimes. Federal laws regarding sexual exploitation include: Transporting, Receiving, Distributing, Manufacturing, or Possession of Child Pornography; Coercion and Enticement of Children for Sexual Acts; Travel With Intent to Engage in Sex With a Minor; Child Prostitution; and Child-Sex Tourism. Between January 2000 and April 2005, 108 individuals have been charged with federal child pornography-type offenses in the District of Nevada. Persons prosecuted include Stuart Romm, sentenced on November 22, 2004, to a minimum mandatory 180 months in prison and lifetime supervised release for his jury convictions on Receipt and Possession of Child Pornography; Kevin Eric Curtain, sentenced on October 25, 2004, to five years in prison for his jury convictions on Travel with Intent to Engage in a Sexual Act With a Juvenile and Coercion and Enticement of a Minor; and Mark Raffensparger, sentenced on October 12, 2004, to 41 months in prison and lifetime supervised release for his guilty plea to Possession of Child Pornography.
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/nv/home/pressrelease/june2005/children060705.htm
Yes, no sense trying to prove guilt. Make them prove their innocence... right?
Anybody somewhat competent with computers can make a laptop look any way they want. All they need is a network connection. It's the single best way to utterly destroy someone. Nobody will believe them. Their life is over.
G4s have a Secure Trash option.
Push the button and the trashed items can not be recovered.
In theory you would retrieve your client's files from a separate site, read them,trash any down loads, then secure the trash.
I hearby re-adjust my earlier stance, and give credit to both you and Fred Nerks for making me do some homework of my own, and putting me on the right track...
There is a lot more to this story, and this Romm character, and it is not pretty. IMHO, given the circumstance, they took the correct course of action (Click View as HTML):
[PDF] File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML Jason F. Carr, Las Vegas, Nevada, for appellant Stuart Romm. Nancy J. Koppe (briefed) and Daniel ... Defendant Stuart Romm connected to the internet from a ... www.ca9.uscourts.gov/ca9/newopinions.nsf/D4958BAAF34B2292882571B500580F96/$file/0410648.pdf?openelement -
At the British Columbia airport, Canadas Border Services Agency discovered that Romm had a criminal history and stopped him for questioning. Romm admitted he had a crimi- nal record and was currently on probation. Agent Keith Brown then asked Romm to turn on his laptop and briefly examined it. When Brown saw several child pornography websites in Romms internet history,
Brown asked Romm if he had violated the terms of his probation by visiting these websites. Romm answered Yes, and also said, Thats it. My lifes over.
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Meanwhile, Canadas immigration service had decided not to admit Romm into the country. Romm withdrew his applica- tion for entry and was placed under detention until the next flight to Seattle. Agent Brown then informed U.S. Customs in Seattle that Romm had been denied entry and possibly had illegal images on his computer.
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In an unrelated Florida state court prosecution, Romm pleaded nolo contendre to two counts of promoting sexual performance by a child and one count of child exploitation be computer.
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By his own admission to ICE, Romm repeatedly sought out child pornography over the internet.
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Romm then described to the agents how he used Google to search for child pornography websites. When he found pic- tures he liked, Romm would keep them on his screen for five minutes and then delete them. Romm used the terms save and download to describe this operation. While staying in his hotel room in Las Vegas, Romm viewed child pornogra- phy and masturbated twice, while or shortly after viewing the child pornography; he claimed to have then deleted such images. In all, Romm used the internet for approximately six- and-a-half hours during his week-long stay in Las Vegas
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Defendant Stuart Romm is charged in Count 2 of the Indictment with Knowing Possession of Child Por- nography, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 2252A(a)(5)(B). In order for Defen- dant Romm to be found guilty of that charge, the Government must prove each of the following ele- ments beyond a reasonable doubt:
First, That Defendant Stuart Romm knowingly pos- sessed a laptop computer with a hard drive that con- tained three or more images of child pornography;
Second, That the images of child pornography know- ingly possessed by Defendant Stuart Romm, had been mailed, shipped, or transported in interstate or foreign commerce by any means, including by com- puter.
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He also acknowl- edged Canadian authorities knew about his prior conviction. It was against this background that Romm acknowledged hav- ing lapses from his therapy, and viewing images of child pornography.
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My initial impression was this wasn't some accidental site he visited and the fact that Romm was denied entry by the Canadian authorities because of his criminal history, I knew there had to be a lot more to this story. I think Homeland security has better things to do than search a laptop, unless they have a good reason to.
People crossing a border don't have ANY expectation of privacy, and can be searched without probable cause or a warrant.
I hope you accept the compliment. ;o)
>Fred, per post #46...USF CAN believe it if Jan says it!" ;o)
I'm glad Fred changed his mind!
LOL.. as you can tell in my earlier statements (#20) yes, and yes. Unless that is, you have a purrdy black US passport, and not the standard dark blue one.
Your hunch was correct. ;oP
Romm was denied entry by the Canadian authorities because of his criminal history...
That's the quote that made me suspicious. It would have been helpful had the author of this article given an indication of just what this 'criminal history' was...but he didn't, and that leads me to believe he has an agenda...
biography
Declan McCullagh is CNET News.com's Washington, D.C., correspondent. He chronicles the busy intersection between technology and politics. Before that, he worked for several years as Washington bureau chief for Wired News. He has also worked as a reporter for The Netly News, Time magazine and HotWired.
http://www.econlib.org/library/Columns/y2004/McCullaghsnooping.html
IN RE: STUART A. ROMM
SS.J.C. Order of Indefinite Suspension entered by Justice Marshall on November 3, 1999, retroactive to October 31, 1998.
BOARD MEMORANDUM
Bar Counsel appeals from the report of a hearing committee, which recommended that the respondent, Stuart A. Romm, be suspended from the practice of law for two years based on his conviction for activities involving the solicitation of sex by a minor over the Internet. Maintaining that a two-year suspension is inadequate for the misconduct involved, Bar Counsel urges us to recommend an indefinite suspension. The respondent has not appealed from the hearing committee's report. We allow Bar Counsel's appeal and recommend an indefinite suspension retroactive to October 31, 1998, the effective date of his temporary suspension. Matter of Romm, No. BD-98-027 (October 5, 1998).
http://www.mass.gov/obcbbo/bd98-027.htm
"Bodhisattva."
Gesundheit!
And here we are again, where any American who loves the Constitution should know that Mr. Romm's case is not the point...it's the more general idea of "possession" being the crime.
Anything that can be used against the criminal can be used against the citizen, which is why proper safeguards must always be in place. In this case, since innocent people have been convicted (or had to go through great trouble and embarrassment in fighting prosecution), we know the proper safeguards are not in place. This, of course, is a different issue from the laptop searching.
Thanks, that does change the story.
"(or had to go through great trouble and embarrassment in fighting prosecution)"
Examples?
Apologies, but I fear I must temporarily withdraw my specific comment as I can't look up references right now, but if you want to search, I think one case was in Indiana, IIRC. Anyone familiar with the Duke lacrosse case knows that prosecutorial zeal can bear little relation to law enforcement, resting more upon personal "score" and success in the case, regardless of justice. Such a situation can easily foster false prosecutions, surely you can see...but I am unable to cite any specific cases for you now.
"Is the key stored on the laptop? 128 bit encryption can be cracked rather easily, 256 bit is harder, though most PGP systems use 2048 bit encryption, but that's a 128 character string, quite a lot of typing for someone to use on an everyday basis. If it's 8 characters, that's 128 bit encryption, something I can crack using my laptop and about 20 hours of time, depending upon the sample size. If I have a huge sample of text or word documents, it can be cracked within 10 minutes; faster with word documents."
"And if I can do it with simple tools, so should most government agencies. If a border agent found your data all to be encrypted, it would seem to me to be more likely for them to seize and keep the laptop until they can either crack the code, or get you to give it up yourself."
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Thanks for the tips. I hope all who use PGP check the strength of their encryption and take the obvious lesson about the importance of having a suitably long key. Mine was long, but not quite long enough. Now it is (with some extra for good measure).
As for the border security, I will avoid crossing any check point, internal or at the border, with sensitive data, encrypted or not, given this extension of power that the state has granted itself. There are relatively easy ways to avoid the need for this, as you are no doubt aware. What I don't have cannot be seized. If your scenario develops, the seizers can satisfy their urge to pry open the PGP-locked box and I can enjoy their discovering that the container is empty. PGP seems to be pretty good privacy, but some further review will be needed to assure that the cache-wiping and "deleted file" wiping utilities are working as advertised.
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