[the anti-mahdi]

The Israelis either will or won't achieve a total victory--laden phrases such as "final solution" to analogize what the Israelis are up against (which is purely and simply an existential threat from an implacable enemy) cheapens the discussion and frankly adopts the tactics of the left both in Israel and here.

To win a lasting peace, Israel will have to kill and or deport most of the non-Jews in the region. I predict they likely will not do so. And they will likely pay the price when they are once again pressured into accepting a permanent knife at their throat and learning to like living in bomb shelters through another temporary fake ceasefire imposed by her "ally" the USA.

Sure would like to be wrong about Israel and watch Iran and Syria get what they richly deserve, but I think it may have to wait for Another who promised He would come to do it for us.

[Dov in Houston]

A friend sent this to me via email and I think the freepers should pass this around

PLEASE LISTEN TO THIS NOW..... VERY POWERFUL

Here is a powerful and amazing statement on Al Jazeera television. The woman is Wafa Sultan, an Arab-American psychologist from Los Angeles. I would suggest watching it ASAP because I don't know how long the link will be active.

http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214&ar=1050wmv&ak=null

[Restorer]

It is not inappropriate to use the term "Final Solution" when discussing that a truly effective military solution might involve the killing of 300 million Arabs or 1B+ Muslims. What term would you use?

The major difference between such a "solution" and that of the Nazis is that the Arabs and Muslims really are, as you say, an existential threat to Israel, and the Jews being a threat to Germany was a delusion.

Those who argue the ineffectiveness of non-military solutions may be entirely correct, but the military solutions that we're willing to accept may be no more effective.

[quantfive]

"Sure would like to be wrong about Israel and watch Iran and Syria get what they richly deserve, but I think it may have to wait for Another who promised He would come to do it for us."

Revelations says that Israel is spared from the the great eagle who fly's her to saftey for a time. I assume this means the USA's support of Israel which we have done by arming them and pitching their case at the UN time and time again.

Then Revelations says that those faithful to Christ will also partake in the final battle of those who ruin the earth. It means us on earth doing the fighting, not just a spiritual being on a white horse firing magic missles. Direct divine intervention on Israel's behalf in regards to military battles happened at times, but it was not the norm. I expect something similar when Christ returns.

[Khepri]

The Israelis either will or won't achieve a total victory--laden phrases such as "final solution" to analogize what the Israelis are up against (which is purely and simply an existential threat from an implacable enemy) cheapens the discussion and frankly adopts the tactics of the left both in Israel and here.

So when they say the "real Holocaust" is coming, you're saying it's just "talk" that we would do well to ignore? And if we acknowledge such threats, we're adopting "the tactics of the left both in Israel and here"?