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To: gdani
You are conveniently forgetting that churches willingly give up some First Amendment rights when they choose to remain a non-profit.

If they can be given up, then they are not 'rights' under the Constitution.

If it's a simple case of being a violation of free speech rights then please explain why a non-profit hasn't sued over the issue.

First, why are you trying to turn my reply into a statement of 'free speech rights'? I never said that, and I never intimated it. Second, I think there have been efforts to fight these laws along those lines, but I don't have time to do the research right now. Regardless, the words of the 1st Amendment stand on their own. Congress shall pass no law, yet they have. Therefore, the law (laws, actually) is null and void, even though it is enforced . . . and feared because of that force.

335 posted on 07/28/2006 8:30:08 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: savedbygrace
If they can be given up, then they are not 'rights' under the Constitution.

Nonsense. People give up and/or sign away their constitutional rights all the time under various circumstances.

First, why are you trying to turn my reply into a statement of 'free speech rights'? I never said that, and I never intimated it.

You are correct. I didn't read your previous post carefully enough to see you were referring to the religious liberty portion of the First Amendment, not the free speech portion.

Nonetheless, Congress has passed laws that seemingly violate religious freedom yet they've been upheld by courts, including the U.S. Supreme Court.

It's why American Indians & Rastafarians cannot use otherwise illegal drugs as sacraments and Mormons can't legally practice bigamy.

You & I may disagree with such laws & their constitutionality but, ultimately, our opinions don't count.

336 posted on 07/28/2006 8:47:17 AM PDT by gdani
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