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To: xzins
The IRS can't take free speech from anyone. They can, however, take the tax exempt status from churches that engage in political speech and political messages. The whole tax exempt thing is based around that. If a church wants to discuss politics and have candidates campaign for office from the pulpit then they have to give up tax exempt status.

Seems resonable to me. Church wants its rights under the constitution, give up the right not to be taxed and they've got 'em!

23 posted on 07/27/2006 8:58:07 AM PDT by calex59 (The '86 amnesty put us in the toilet, now the senate wants to flush it!)
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To: calex59
Church wants its rights under the constitution, give up the right not to be taxed and they've got 'em!

Where do you think churches get their money, and to whom does the individual attender give it, and for what purpose?

A church is individuals....that's what the word means.

My $100 bucks to God is in worship of God. If you take even a dime of it, you have told me I'm not allowed to worship God as much as I wanted to.

31 posted on 07/27/2006 9:08:40 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Supporting the troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: calex59

That is not the traditional and historical view that our government and populace have had toward houses of faith.

Why should it change now?


42 posted on 07/27/2006 9:14:24 AM PDT by Praxeus
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To: calex59
With the FairTax, there's no need for them to do that at all.

It's called FREEDDOM!! And the FairTax gets us there quickly and reasonably.

60 posted on 07/27/2006 9:24:25 AM PDT by pigdog
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To: calex59
If a church wants to discuss politics and have candidates campaign for office from the pulpit then they have to give up tax exempt status.

Unless the candidate is a liberal Democrat. Extra points if the church is predominantly black.

The IRS is selectively enforces their rules to muzzle conservatives, pure and simple.

66 posted on 07/27/2006 9:25:30 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: calex59
The IRS can't take free speech from anyone. They can, however, take the tax exempt status from churches that engage in political speech and political messages. The whole tax exempt thing is based around that. If a church wants to discuss politics and have candidates campaign for office from the pulpit then they have to give up tax exempt status.

Seems resonable to me. Church wants its rights under the constitution, give up the right not to be taxed and they've got 'em!


Not true. Once churches lose their tax exempt status, then they are even more subject to control. When the gov't doesn't like what the churches are saying, they can simply tax them out of existence. That is the original reason churches were tax exempt to begin with.
148 posted on 07/27/2006 10:33:10 AM PDT by NonLinear (He's dead, Jim)
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