[tpaine]

If machine guns ever become commonplace in the US and it's necessary to own one for defensive purposes, my position will change.

Are you two even aware that a commonplace 12 gauge pump loaded with 5 shells of #4 buck is the equivalent of a 100 round submachine gun -- capable of aimed fire at 40 yards on man sized targets?

How will you rationalize the banning of shotguns & buckshot?

[Dog Gone]

Give it up, tpaine. You're talking to gun people on this thread, and nobody but you is going to equate a shot gun with an automatic rifle.