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State trooper pleads guilty to possessing machine gun
Belleville News-Democrat ^ | Jul. 26, 2006 | ASHLEY TUSAN JOYNER

Posted on 07/26/2006 4:47:07 PM PDT by bad company

Illinois State Police trooper Gregory Mugge pleaded guilty to one charge of possessing an unregistered machine gun in federal court on Tuesday, according to an announcement from the U.S. attorney's office.

Mugge, 52, of Jerseyville, was indicted in January, along with Illinois State Police Sgt. James Vest, 39, of O'Fallon, and John Yard, 36, an Illinois State Police special agent assigned to the Collinsville office, each face separate charges of illegal gun possession.

Mugge faces up to 10 years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and a maximum three years of supervised release.

He is scheduled to reappear in court for sentencing on Oct. 27.

On Dec. 29, authorities seized Mugge's unregistered Colt .2234 caliber rifle from his home in Jerseyville. In his plea, Mugge admitted to knowing his possession of the rifle was unlawful.

In February, a group of 12 local police chiefs and sheriffs, and two state senators, Sen. Bill Haine, D-Alton, and Sen. James Watson, R-Greenville, endorsed a letter of support for the three state troopers.

At that time, the backers pushed for administrative punishment for the three troopers rather than prosecution.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2a; 2ndamendment; automaticrifle; bang; banglist; firearm; leo; m16; machinegun; mg; rifle; rkba; secondamendment
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To: TheDon
It is interesting that they realize the injustice of sending these men to prison for 10 years, but they probably think it is because they are LEOs and not that the law they have violated is unjust. After all, where are the victims?

You're right. And these two probably have delusions of grandeur and of some day being worthy of the executive protection afforded the boy-governor.

The more of this shite I read the more convinced I am that citizens HAVE to arm themselves, because some day we're all going to clearly understand what they framers meant by tyranny.

We must make our fellow citizens understand that responsible citizenship includes THE RIGHT and THE DUTY to possess the same weapons issued to infantry in the regular army.

101 posted on 07/26/2006 6:19:03 PM PDT by IncPen (Bush Iraq Truth WMD http://freedomkeys.com/whyiraq.htm)
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To: IncPen

But I want a tank!


102 posted on 07/26/2006 6:20:31 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: JillValentine

If automatic rifles were banned, I'd be disappointed, since they're fun to shoot and a law banning them would be unconstitutional.



They are banned. You can not manufacture one, nor can you go out and pay a licensed manufacturer to make one and sell it to you. You can't possess any modern automatic weapons made in the last 20 years, nor may you possess most made in all the prior history of our nation.

Of course, there is a small set of old, used, andjury-rigged automatic weapons you may possess. Unfortunately, there is only about 1 for every 2000 adult citizens, so you have to pay at least about10 times what they should be priced at to get an owner to sell it to you.


103 posted on 07/26/2006 6:21:36 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Dog Gone

"I wonder who that says more about."

lets see, didn't you try to compare automatic weapons to WMDs? I kinda wish that were true, maybe the MSM would finally admit that Iraq has WMDs.

And didn't you also charge that the desire to own a automatic weapon was indicative of a will to commit mass murder?


104 posted on 07/26/2006 6:22:20 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: bad company
Following that logic, television, radio and the internet do not fall under the first ammendment.

No, it doesn't mean that at all. It means that our courts have to decide what the Founders would have intended had the technology existed at the time they wrote the Constitution.

Which they have done ever since the Constitution was written. That's why we have Supreme Court cases on such things as thermal technology devices which can see through walls of a house. We've always been required to extrapolate what the Founders would have intended had they even considered the particular fact situation.

It's why the Air Force isn't unconstitutional although it's not provided for in the powers of the legislature to create and maintain.

105 posted on 07/26/2006 6:25:14 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Still Thinking

"But I want a tank!"

And you can have a tank. You just cant have one with a working cannon.


106 posted on 07/26/2006 6:25:28 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver

You can either retract your statement or not. I'm indifferent.


107 posted on 07/26/2006 6:32:48 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

"orry, through with you. You're into insults. Other people can carry your arguments, but I don't need your crap."

Don't care if you respond or not. I didn't insult, I said the argument used was silly. All of the anti gun arguments you are using are old. They've all been thought out, researched and found to be faulty. Thats not an insult, thats a challenge to come up with an original argument.

Law abiding gun owners commit very few gun crimes. Most crimes are committed by criminals.


108 posted on 07/26/2006 6:35:06 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: spanalot
"dont you consider full auto a machine gun?"

Absolutely not. Full auto means 30 or so rounds at most per load. A machine gun tosses bullets in the hundreds or thousands of bullets continuously.

109 posted on 07/26/2006 6:35:44 PM PDT by BobS
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To: Beelzebubba

banned comp.? I thought with proper buyer background checks posession was allowed in some states.


110 posted on 07/26/2006 6:44:35 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: Dog Gone

Let's see, you used "inner city" and "gangbangers" in your argument about who you didn't want their Constitutional Rights.

I think you forgot to use the words "nigger" and "darkie". Did I forget any?


111 posted on 07/26/2006 6:48:04 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: Dog Gone
" I said the Founding Fathers almost certainly did not want you to have WMDs.

I think I see where you're wandering off of the road here. Are you trying to make the point that a full auto capable rifle somehow equals a "WMD"? If so, you may have already been indoctrinated beyond hope.

Consider this for a moment, please.
Our Second Amendment was written to guarantee the individual right to arms AND the collective right, {militia}. The militia member was expected to answer the call bringing his own weapon "in common use" for his time. Today, in our time, that weapon would be at a minimum the second version of the M16.

Inalienable REALLY means inalienable. {Foolish voters may not legislate said rights away}
Shall not be infringed REALLY means shall not be infringed.

112 posted on 07/26/2006 6:49:28 PM PDT by labette (Why stand ye here all the day idle?)
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To: BobS

the feds dont make that distinction.


113 posted on 07/26/2006 6:58:13 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: driftdiver

Why not a working cannon in his tank? Private ownership of cannon was not banned under the Constitution;although most people had better uses for the money.


114 posted on 07/26/2006 7:00:20 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: Shooter 2.5

You pathetic jerk. You want to accuse me of racism in your defense of machine guns.

Where are the gangs operating? Out in the cornfields of Iowa?

Or maybe to mention the existence of gangs and their propensity for gun violence is racist.

The only person who raised race on this thread is YOU, and in a most ugly and despicable way.


115 posted on 07/26/2006 7:02:14 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
It means that our courts have to decide what the Founders would have intended had the technology existed at the time they wrote the Constitution.

Well the federalist papers make it clear that the second ammendment is intended to keep a tyranical government at bay, and the firearms in this article would easily meet that standard.

116 posted on 07/26/2006 7:02:54 PM PDT by bad company (When Chuck Norris goes to bed at night, he checks his closet for FReeper kanawa)
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To: Hodar

Or a conscious one, deciding that since the restriction is unconstitutional, it need not be obeyed.

We have many unconstitutional alleged "laws" on the books, and they will almost certainly remain there until enough people challenge them to make them an issue.

If that was his intent, he needs to have a LOT of money to work with, and LOTS of supporters.


117 posted on 07/26/2006 7:04:50 PM PDT by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: labette
Are you trying to make the point that a full auto capable rifle somehow equals a "WMD"? If so, you may have already been indoctrinated beyond hope.

No, I'm not. And rather than repeating myself, you might read all my posts on this thread. I've specifically answered that question before.

118 posted on 07/26/2006 7:05:15 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Still Thinking
But I want a tank!

My advice: Get the biggest tank you can afford...


119 posted on 07/26/2006 7:09:25 PM PDT by IncPen (Bush Iraq Truth WMD http://freedomkeys.com/whyiraq.htm)
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To: 04-Bravo
Ah, the dreaded Colt .2234 caliber rifle...

An obvious typo, they were of course refering to the dreaded .1234 caliber assault-sniper-machinegun-rifle.

It's all Bush's fault.

120 posted on 07/26/2006 7:09:55 PM PDT by JavaTheHutt (I'm JavaTheHutt, and I approve of this message.)
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