[Lady Jag]

Well said.

Mom was just about the only woman in my life growing up and she was raised by her father, a widower. I learned how to work on cars, do carpentry and all sorts of neat stuff I wouldn't have, given too much pink.

But there are a lot of men who don't like that in a woman. Maybe they are the insecure ones, but they portray it with rage and that's what pisses me off.

[Little Bill]

My Family went West in the 1840's, men without women did not survive. My Great-grand mothers parents died on the Oregon trail she and her sister were given to a family in an adjoining wagon train.

She grew up Married my Great-grand father had eleven kids, was a midwife and delivered a thousand more, kept house and helped run the family Business, they were married for Sixty-three years, my Dad said that she was the most loving person he ever knew, said her life ended when her Oscar died.

[newguy357]

I learned how to work on cars, do carpentry and all sorts of neat stuff I wouldn't have, given too much pink. But there are a lot of men who don't like that in a woman. Maybe they are the insecure ones, but they portray it with rage and that's what pisses me off.

No, men are fine with that in women. What men aren't fine with is women who are arrogant, as you really seem to be.