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To: jim_trent
Here's more help for you to work toward YOUR engineering degree:

http://www.motorists.org/issues/enforce/studies/tti04.pdf

63 posted on 07/26/2006 2:27:04 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Beelzebubba

CONGRATULATIONS.

You finally found a webpage that had a truely independent study. Too bad it does not say what you think it says. In fact, it specifically says:

"The problem of red-light-running is widespread and growing; its cost to society is significant. A wide range of potential countermeasures to the red-light-running problem exist. These countermeasures are generally divided into two broad categories: engineering countermeasures and enforcement countermeasures. A study by Retting et al. (4) has shown that countermeasures in both categories are effective in reducing the frequency of red-light-violations.
…………
(Lists several countermeasures, including)

6. If officer enforcement is determined to be unsuccessful or ineffective, then camera enforcement can be considered."

That does not sound like a blanket condemnation of red-light-cameras to me. Like good engineers should do, though, the study recommends other less obtrusive measures be tried first.

As far as the graph, I have seen that kind of thing before. If you read my original post, I already said that there is a small, but temporary increase in safety when the yellow light is lengthened. However, it does not stay. Within 6 months, the people learn the new limits and the number of accidents goes back to where it was before. I looked and did not see anything about this graph being a long term study.


72 posted on 07/26/2006 4:53:22 PM PDT by jim_trent
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