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How can identical twins be genetically different?
University of Michigan Health System ^ | 7-25-06 | Rossitza Iordanova

Posted on 07/26/2006 3:54:33 AM PDT by Pharmboy

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This could have implications far beyond rheumatoid arthritis.

Geez...doesn't that U-M internist have a most unfotunate name? I do not think anyone would blame him for changing it...

1 posted on 07/26/2006 3:54:33 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: blam; SunkenCiv; aculeus; Coyoteman; PatrickHenry; Lazamataz; pissant; martin_fierro

Incredible name for an internist at U-M Medical School ping list combined with non-identical identical twin ping list...

Laz--you and pissant are on for the former ping list.


2 posted on 07/26/2006 3:58:28 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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>>This could have implications far beyond rheumatoid arthritis<<

Like the "Gay Gene"?


3 posted on 07/26/2006 4:05:58 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: Pharmboy
Ira Maine, Ph.D.,

Do you mean him? I was once fooled by a prankster-I called the funeral home and asked for Myra Maines. It took me a week to figure out the punch line.

4 posted on 07/26/2006 4:06:32 AM PDT by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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We once that that the genes were the be all and end all of life. We thought that cracking the human genome would answer all of our questions, but we were wrong. Life is far more complex than a set of instructions, its how they are interpreted that counts, and that interpretation depends on alot of external factors.


5 posted on 07/26/2006 4:07:16 AM PDT by Paradox (Removing all Doubt since 1998!)
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To: Pharmboy; b_sharp; Ichneumon; longshadow; CarolinaGuitarman; Thatcherite; Coyoteman; js1138; ...
Probably not a full-blown evo thread. Pinging "the few."
6 posted on 07/26/2006 4:15:20 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (The Enlightenment gave us individual rights, free enterprise, and the theory of evolution.)
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To: Pharmboy

auto-immunity, whether or not exposed to infection, not mentioned as possible etiologic factors.


7 posted on 07/26/2006 4:37:59 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: carumba

"Dr. Holoshitz will see you now..."


8 posted on 07/26/2006 4:46:37 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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To: gusopol3

That is certainly understood...I believe that the authors would have assumed its readers would be aware of that. Their main focus here, however, was the the three genes they isolated as possibly being the keys here.


9 posted on 07/26/2006 4:53:34 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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To: Pharmboy

Probably why he decided against being a proctologist




10 posted on 07/26/2006 5:08:00 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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Now THAT'S funny...


11 posted on 07/26/2006 6:09:13 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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They also found that non-genetic factors influenced the expression of these genes

Talk about missing the elephant in the room...

12 posted on 07/26/2006 6:27:58 AM PDT by GVnana (Former Alias: GVgirl)
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To: carumba
Mike Hunt is a classic.
13 posted on 07/26/2006 6:31:38 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (A Conservative will die for individual freedom. A Liberal will kill you for the good of society.)
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To: Pharmboy

Thanks for the ping!


14 posted on 07/26/2006 6:34:29 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: carumba

I think he is referring to Joseph Holoshitz, M.D., mentioned in the forth or fifth paragraph. That would be a tough name to grow up with


15 posted on 07/26/2006 6:38:12 AM PDT by foolscap
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To: Pharmboy

I believe the internist is in the process of changing it to Solidshitz.


16 posted on 07/26/2006 6:38:28 AM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: neverdem

Ping


17 posted on 07/26/2006 6:49:18 AM PDT by annie laurie (All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost)
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IIRC, he joined the army and became General Sheisskopf.


18 posted on 07/26/2006 7:42:38 AM PDT by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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This kind of thing where a gene is expressed in one individual and not in another "genetically identical" is not surprising to me.

The process of lysogeny in bacteria is well known. Two identical bacteria, infected with the same Lambda phage may either go into a lysogenic state or a lytic state. The key is a "fight" with a repressor. If the balance swings one way the bacterium survives, harboring the lysogenic phage. If the balance swings the other, new virus particles are produced and the bacterium is killed. Why couldn't the same general process happen in identical twins?


19 posted on 07/26/2006 7:47:13 AM PDT by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: PatrickHenry

I would like to point out that the lead author is a Christian.


20 posted on 07/26/2006 8:57:54 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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