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To: calcowgirl

Agenda 21 sets up a 'civil governance' society, which is government by NGOs and corporations developing laws through 'working groups'. That is exactly how the SPP operates. This is called communitarian government as well, and is the basis for the new Iraqi government, which is one reason why Iraq is still ungovernable.


60 posted on 07/26/2006 12:26:31 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer

It seems that Pastor, and SPP, are following along the same lines as Jean Monnet and the long road to creating the European Union. Many have compared Pastor to Monnet.
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“There will be no peace in Europe if the States rebuild themselves on the basis of national sovereignty, with its implications of prestige politics and economic protection (...). The countries of Europe are not strong enough individually to be able to guarantee prosperity and social development for their peoples. The States of Europe must therefore form a federation or a European entity that would make them into a common economic unit.”

--Jean Monnet, the “father of the European Community”, August 5, 1943


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http://www.historiasiglo20.org/europe/monnet.htm

“To create Europe is to create peace”

In 1950, in the face of rising international tensions, Jean Monnet felt that the time had come to attempt an irreversible step toward uniting the European countries. In his house in Houjarray, he and his team conceived the idea of the European Community. On 9 May 1950, with the agreement of Chancellor Adenauer, Robert Schuman made a declaration in the name of the French government. Prepared by Jean Monnet, this declaration proposed placing all the Franco-German production of steel and coal under a common High Authority open to the other countries of Europe. “Through the consolidation of basic production and the institution of a new High Authority, whose decisions will bind France, Germany and the other countries that join, this proposal represents the first concrete step towards a European federation, imperative for the preservation of peace,” declared Robert Schuman. Soon the Federal Republic of Germany, Italy, Belgium, Luxembourg, and the Netherlands replied favourably. Thus the European Coal and Steel Community (ECSC) was born, laying the foundation of the European Community. In 1952, Jean Monnet became the first President of the High Authority.


63 posted on 07/26/2006 1:33:31 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Here's some snips from one Barron's article I was reading about IPS:


For Socialist Alternatives
Barron's National Business and Financial Weekly, Aug 23, 1976
DAVID KELLEY

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Participatory democracy is also seen as a means of reaching collective decisions about the use of economic resources. As Raskin [IPS co-founder] put it, the goal is to "use the productive wealth of the society for the people in the best possible way. And the way you define the best way is through dialogue and through modes of community participation and organization, on the ward level, on the village level, on the city level."

That doesn't happen in Russia. Nor can it happen in any unit the size of a nation. Hence, for the New Left, the goal is a radically decentralized economy, in which everyone can literally come together-and participate.

However decentralized, the economic units in New Left ideology are not the individuals of capitalist theory, but communities. Indeed, the purpose of decentralization is precisely to make socialism work. As Alperovitz himself put it in a 1972 essay, the goal is to maintain "both the socialist vision and the decentralist ideal."

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Under the aegis of the Office of Economic Opportunity, the federal poverty program in the sixties spawned the concept of community development corporations (CDCs). These are private, non-profit organizations, often led by radicals; they are designed to provide economic services to members of a community, and in theory are open to all who wish to join. CDCs have received millions in aid from OEO and the Model Cities program.

IPS Fellow Milton Kotler suggested, in his Neighborhood Government (1969), that such corporations could expand their powers to the point at which they function as governments. In particular, he recommended that they be given the power to tax; to regulate business within the boundaries of the neighborhood they serve; and to acquire property by eminent domain. In this way, miniature socialist states could grow within the existing political structure.


64 posted on 07/26/2006 1:42:14 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: hedgetrimmer; calcowgirl; dennisw; Smartass

I had never heard of "communitarian government" so I looked it up. Socialism bigtime. What galls me is that this is another George Washington University professor, Etzioni and the taxpayers are paying for this mess.

http://www.gwu.edu/~ccps/platformtext.html

I read most of the projects and activities. Diversity with unity.LOL! This nutball has probably never done a hard day's work in his life. He is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. The following is his discription on the CFR list.

http://www.geocities.com/benribqqq/cfr2005roster.html




Etzioni, Amitai (aka Werner Falk) – founder and director of The Communitarian Network; a Zionist terrorist


73 posted on 07/26/2006 6:00:37 PM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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