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To: SteveMcKing

"quiting drinking is easy, I've done it a thousand times"

Odd to hear criticism here of a program that's main purpose is to help the individual seek God. The true alcoholic is beyond humanm aide. Nowadays alot of neurotics hang out in AA as therapy. But for the true alcoholic, the problem is not quiting drinking but finding a satisfying way of life that precludes drinking again. This can be achieved by turning one's life and will over to the care of God. the article is more atheistic european crap.


36 posted on 07/26/2006 12:40:39 AM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (level headed analyst here...armed to the teeth)
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To: wildcatf4f3

AA isn't necessarily for all is my point, with my husband as an example. He was up against having to face his problems, anger and alcoholism, per a domestic violence incident. He was court ordered to abstain from alcohol, which I thought would never happen. But he made a decision to stop drinking, went to a court ordered anger program called DECIDE (which I am in debt to for life!) after 12 yrs. of hell, he got his life and his wife and children back. He was court ordered to go to AA, but refused having tried that years before and couldn't relate his drinking beer from a can with all the 'bottle' talk at meetings, just where his mind was at then.


40 posted on 07/26/2006 12:47:29 AM PDT by tina07 (In Memory of my Father - WWII Army Air Force Veteran)
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To: wildcatf4f3
the article is more atheistic european crap.

Agreed.

100 posted on 07/26/2006 6:19:53 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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To: wildcatf4f3

"Odd to hear criticism here of a program that's main purpose is to
help the individual seek God."

I remember years ago being surpised by what I heard Joseph Califano say after
spending a lot of time working on government programs for drug/alcohol abuse.
(Califano was a functionary in the Johnson and Carter administrations.)

He said that he was suprised, as a progressive, modern Democrat to find
that the only programs that really worked were the ones that included a
heavy dose of religional content.
And that the secular, G-d-free treatments just didn't have the same
success rates.

He's now running an institute (link below)

http://www.nationalfamilies.org/prevention/jcalifano.html


107 posted on 07/26/2006 6:40:17 AM PDT by VOA
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