Posted on 07/25/2006 7:55:23 PM PDT by pcottraux
I suppose they occasionally get something right, even a blind hog finds an acorn now and then.
Spot on. Why else do they support programs that pay people to stay in poverty? Conditioning people to live meaningless, unproductive (and therefore unhappy) lives is not compassionate. It's ridiculous for them to say so.
They may call it Christianity, but the "faith" they love has nothing to do with historical Christianity, but is just leftist social activism given a religious veneer.
Conservative churches are exploding with growth. People love hearing the Truth.
There is no way this 'reach out to people of faith' campaign is going to get any more people than they already have. It's going to appeal to religious liberals, not religious conservatives. Nobody from the right is going to believe liberals have 'found religion'. They tend to get more moderates unless they appear too polarized themselves, enough to push 'em bakc to the right.
It's just a sham, don't buy it. I hope they do try it. They're going to hurt themselves even more than we could. Then come election day they'll be scratching their heads wondering how things could've gone so poorly.
Another problem (for them, not us) is that liberalism and the "religious" left has a different goal from Christianity. Christianity is about doing the right thing, and obeying God, while left-wingism is about making the world a better place via secularist methods.
Christian theology teaches that man is inherently sinful and corrupt, and in need of redemption. And to reach that redemption, sacrifice, work, and doing the right thing is needed on man's part. Lefties believe that all man needs is to be happy, not have hurt feelings, have a full belly, a free car, etc. And all those things will be provided through government programs...and without God's help.
I see the religious left as being as helpful to electing Democrats as was John Kerry's decision to run as a military man was helpful to his campaign. Any Democrat candidate who actively pitches a religious left posture will eventually hit a reality wall the same way Kerry did. This is yet another Wile E. Coyote move by Democrats hoping that this new Acme product will finally result in a roasted Republican Road Runner.
I can't believe these guys keep trying like this.
Good news for the right - the more open and active the lefty-religonists become, the more people flee their congregations........
Somebody ping the REV. Jesse Jackson, the REV. Al Sharpton and the REV. Barry Lynn. It's safe to come out of the closet. The prayer closet that is.
Very good response to Darkwolf377.
Since you gently inserted yourself, I'll simply say that to know the truth will suffice.
For a simply intellectual exercise, let's subsitute faith for confidence.
Faith comes by hearing, hearing comes from the word of God.
Truth always requires confidence, or else, you believe anything.
After a few years of experience, I've decided that NOTHING the left does will come as a surprise to me.
THANKS.
This will likely turn out to be welcome.
I suspect this will wake up Evangelicals and even anger them tons and tons more. Probably enough to make a real difference in Nov well beyond earlier efforts.
I sure pray and hope so.
ahem, Jerry and Pat don't sway me, the Bible does.
"The call of the gospel is to help the poor," Meyers said. "The strong ought to help the weak, instead of the strong helping the strong get stronger, which the Bush administration is all about."
ahem, the call of the Gospel is to reach the lost. Jesus said we would always have the poor. Helping the poor doesn't mean using a socialist middle man organization.
I suspect your observations will turn out to be fairly astute.
I do hope you somehow manage to reach such an open minded state and then keep your mind open about God's existence, however.
"by fundamentalists who claim to speak for Jesus"
A popular lie of the left. I challenge the idiot to name one person on "the religious right" who claims to speak for Jesus. God's word is the Bible. Lefties, even "religious" ones, just don't get that.
I do think this is going to crack the Dummies, becase they are so viciously, violently anti-religion because of resentments about how they were brought up. They take anyone else's strong belief as a personal affront--remember, to a Dummie it's all about ME ME ME!!!! Even other people daring to see things differently is somehow an attack on them. They take the universe personally.
There are plenty of mainstream dems who are conservative, and they, I think, are the target of this at least in part, an attempt to keep them in the fold. But the radical libs will HATE this.
I think if the Dems lose in 2006 and 2008 some of them are going to say "Ta heck with it, let's break off."
So, essntially, their "faith-based agenda" just happens to mirror Democrat talking points. Their faith lies in the faulty ideals that make up liberalism, not God.
I do think this is going to crack the Dummies, becase they are so viciously, violently anti-religion because of resentments about how they were brought up. They take anyone else's strong belief as a personal affront--remember, to a Dummie it's all about ME ME ME!!!! Even other people daring to see things differently is somehow an attack on them. They take the universe personally.
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I think you are quite right.
BTW, IF
at some future point in your lifetime, you
OBSERVE evidently incrontrovertable evidence of God's existence . . .
would you stubbornly resist altering your viewpoint or be brave enough to go where the evidence led you?
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