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U.S. Religious Right Facing Pushback from Left
Yahoo! News ^ | July 25 | Thomas Ferraro

Posted on 07/25/2006 7:55:23 PM PDT by pcottraux

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1 posted on 07/25/2006 7:55:24 PM PDT by pcottraux
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As an atheist I say with confidence that this is the beginning of a major crack in ther Dummie party. The libs are admitting they can't beat 'em (religious folks) so they're going to try and join 'em, and co-opt the religious theme.

Instead of endless babble about keeping religion out of public discourse, we will now hear competing messages: "Christ is actually pro-choice" and such.

And watch how the media, so dismissive of the religious right, will suddenly have all kinds of interest in the religious left--expect lots of shots of Katie Couric with a pen in her hand, nodding with interest as some leftist refering to God as "She" talks about the "immorality" of the WOT, for example.

2 posted on 07/25/2006 7:59:38 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (http://www.savethesoldiers.com/)
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Gay marriage doesn't prove to be very 'divisive' when the people actually get to vote on it, as its been voted down handily every time, from a low of 57% to a high of over 80%, and an average of about 70%.

Basically, the 'religious left' calls for bigger govt, amnesty for illegal aliens, and complete and unconditional surrender of conservatives in the Culture War.


3 posted on 07/25/2006 8:01:41 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: pcottraux

Wishful thinking on the part of the MSM. Left-wing "ministers" have been around for decades (two ran for president as Democratic candidates). Their agenda will have no impact on the so-called religious right.


4 posted on 07/25/2006 8:02:18 PM PDT by RedRover
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"The religious right, which helped re-elect President Bush in 2004 by rallying opposition to abortion and gay marriage, is now facing a pushback from the religious left."

"Pushback from religious left"?
What religious left?
Al Reuters is just so funny and predictable.
5 posted on 07/25/2006 8:02:21 PM PDT by Jameison
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The religious left probably applies a socialist standard to Christ's teachings. In other words, instead of being all salvation, sacrifice, and God's plan for humanity, Jesus was some sort of hippy peacenik.


6 posted on 07/25/2006 8:03:22 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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Suuuure. A couple of pastors does not a movement make.


7 posted on 07/25/2006 8:03:39 PM PDT by VegasCowboy ("...he wore his gun outside his pants, for all the honest world to feel.")
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What religious left?

It is kind of an oxymoron.

8 posted on 07/25/2006 8:04:32 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: Darkwolf377

As an atheist, quite frankly, you can say nothing with confidence because your beliefs are rooted in nothing except that which you believe is your own intellectual superiority.

I've read your post, I don't think you qualify.


9 posted on 07/25/2006 8:06:26 PM PDT by Hilltop
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"Their agenda will have no impact on the so-called religious right."

Other than for us to remind them that the cafeteria is closed.

10 posted on 07/25/2006 8:06:31 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: pcottraux
I haven't set foot into a Methodist church since the 80s, when the leaders of the church followed the teachings of the "liberation theology" crowd and said that the promise of better food and education for the poor in Central America was more important than the reality of brutal, communist-led civil war.
11 posted on 07/25/2006 8:06:43 PM PDT by VanShuyten (One of my hungry and forebearing friends was sounding in the bows just before me.)
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the religious left.

There's no such thing. It's a convenient fiction created for this election cycle. It's not likely that an ideology that embraces every perversion known to man can lay any credible claim to religious gravitas.

12 posted on 07/25/2006 8:08:00 PM PDT by IronJack
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More about Jim Wallis and the Sojourners organization:

http://www.cacradicalgrace.org/conferences/psca/

http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=special.display&item=050111_godspolitics

http://www.calltorenewal.com/events/pentecost06/index.html

http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=resources.discussion_guides

My opinion, this Jim Wallis is a money-changer. That is, a professional con man, using religion as his vehicle. It is his racket to end poverty by taking from the foolish, and putting the money in his own pocket.


13 posted on 07/25/2006 8:08:21 PM PDT by i_dont_chat (I have the right to offend. You can take offense or not.)
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According to scholars, the religious left has become its most active since the 1960s...

I don't believe it. Odd the reporter didn't name the "scholars"?

14 posted on 07/25/2006 8:10:09 PM PDT by GOPJ (Evolution: It's not "one" missing link - ALL the links are missing.)
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My opinion, this Jim Wallis is a money-changer.

I'll accept that.

15 posted on 07/25/2006 8:10:10 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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Growing Up with Confidence

Roosevelt had no confidantes but a lot of confidence. His playmates were imaginary but, from a young age, he believed in himself. He grew up that way not only because of class privilege and the expectation of being served, but because of his theology and his expectation, similar to Woodrow Wilson's, that he was chosen to perform great services to mankind.

Franklin Roosevelt particularly learned to think that way during his college preparatory experience at the Groton School in Massachusetts. Nine of ten students entered Groton as members of Social Register families. Many of them left as partakers of the Social Gospel. Endicott Peabody, founder and headmaster of Groton, was a disciple of Charles Kingsley, founder of the Christian Socialist movement in England. Peabody in turn became a lifelong influence on Roosevelt and many others. (When Roosevelt held private services in Washington before his inauguration and on other major occasions, he asked Rev. Peabody to conduct them.) Peabody proclaimed not only the social gospel but social universalism — the belief that it was unfair for anyone to be poor, and that government's task was to eliminate this unfairness by siding with poorer over richer, worker over capitalist. The influence of Peabody's faith is evident in notebooks Franklin kept at Groton on a variety of political issues. For example, Franklin proposed the development of unions backed up by governmental arbitration boards as the way to "resist unjust exactions by the employers."

Old news.

16 posted on 07/25/2006 8:11:09 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: GOPJ

Well, even saying that it's become it's "most active" since the 1960s probably isn't saying much.


17 posted on 07/25/2006 8:11:33 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: IronJack

There is a "religious left," just not a Christian one. A "religious left" could include pagans, Wiccans, and a myriad of cults.

I apologize if I misunderstood your post.


18 posted on 07/25/2006 8:11:46 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Darkwolf377
The religious Left have a singular philosophy of "pansy-ism". Everything from them is based on submission, acquiescence, and compromise -- no matter the consequence to anyone (though usually those negative effects are carried heavily by other people, not themselves).

They are quite sizable here in MA. The most conservative church out of this state from the 1960s is a perfect model in disguise for what exists today: church-going sheep under democrat influence, NOT religious doctrine of any tradition.

19 posted on 07/25/2006 8:12:13 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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Truth is, the religious left has had free reign for a long time. The media has never been out to get them like they have been with the right. So this claim of newness is just an excuse to get them some free media. Talk away. We aren't the ones who want to stifle speech, religious or poltiical.


20 posted on 07/25/2006 8:12:37 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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